Perspective on the team and our fanbase

[ProhmDate]

That video clip is last night's game in a nutshell, and probably all of our frustrating losses in a nutshell. When I watch that clip it's actually embarrassing that the guys in the white jerseys are the ones I cheer for. I hope Prohm plays that video on repeat all week because that lack of effort and toughness is simply not acceptable.

When I think of rebounding, I think of Dustin Hogue. He was the type of warrior I’ll never forget. Obviously, improving our team’s rebounding effort doesn’t happen in a vacuum. It starts with coaching. Coaches need to focus on the importance and make it a critical part of every practice framing it as being as important as shooting the basketball and scoring. Those players who recognize the critical importance and respond as winners need to be recognized and rewarded by the staff and the fans! Rebounding warriors take responsibility for their actions and summon up a fierce, unrelenting focus dedicated to winning every battle!

I hope we have coaches and players who can assume the mantle of responsibility.

 

[cyclones500]

No, I'm just wondering what the basis is for expectations. Is it a 5 game moving average? Is it the last game? Is it an average of the expectation after each game? My point is at the beginning of the season assuming a healthy LW, a healthy SY, and a healthy and eligible Lard the expectations by fans, media and big12 coaches was below where they sit right now. After the injuries and suspensions that dropped. Then it has oscillated pretty wildly from game to game.
I just want to know at what point in all that you consider to be the actual expectation against which the team is judged.

Out of curiosity, I checked back to Athlon and Lindy's to refresh how they projected it. Athlon had ISU 5th in Big 12, two-and-out in NCAAT as an 8 seed. Lindy's had ISU 7th and not making the tournament. Unlike Athlon, Lindy's doesn't list NIT projections, although I assume that's where we would've been placed.

My vote doesn't matter, but I predicted around a 7 seed.

 

[VeloClone]

So you knew the closing lines before I found them for you.

I thought it was pretty clear that someone had posted information that indicated something other than double digit lines when I posted this and asked you for a link showing that they were indeed double digit favorites.

Link?

I have seen this thrown around like it is fact yet the only facts I have seen posted about it is that only one of the three losses had a double digit spread.

 

[FinalFourCy]

No, I'm just wondering what the basis is for expectations. Is it a 5 game moving average? Is it the last game? Is it an average of the expectation after each game? My point is at the beginning of the season assuming a healthy LW, a healthy SY, and a healthy and eligible Lard the expectations by fans, media and big12 coaches was below where they sit right now. After the injuries and suspensions that dropped. Then it has oscillated pretty wildly from game to game.
I just want to know at what point in all that you consider to be the actual expectation against which the team is judged.

It’s convoluted, but preseason expectations have an increasingly low weight as the season goes on. Again, the point is that to be surprised that a mid-February projected outcome is upsetting because that outcome is still somewhat better than a wild guess from the summer is mostly a coping mechanism kicking in.
It’s very reasonable to be disappointed in how a season may end up, while at the same time view that season as a success in the general sense. And the beauty of the NCAA tournament is that it’s a crapshoot, so a few losses resulting in disappointment can quickly be erased. Assuming we don’t face a great #1 seed in the second round as in 2011-12.


It hasn’t oscillated wildly for awhile imo. Analysts and various metrics have called this one of the top Big 12 teams for nearly most of conference play. More than one analyst has called the team the best roster in Big 12. You speak of a healthy Young or Lard, but how about a healthy Doke, Wade, Stokes, Vick leaving, and so on? These factors do nothing but support that preseason guesses mean little in this context.

Imo the false perception that it has oscillated wildly is actually just the swing in emotions to the team’s performance. Which is consistent with one’s expectation for this team not being based on the preseason guess.