One thing that comforts me...
- Thread starter ChrisMWilliams
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I'm not going to read all the responses on the thread, but I do want to chime it. Chris - you are spot on with your take. JP is the best thing that has ever happened to ISU and I can't think of anyone I would rather have working on our behalf (no matter what the issue).
Great post!
Great post!
If BVD were here we would have already closed up shop and headed straight for the Sun Belt Conference. Our financial position would be a total disaster and we would probably have already cut several more athletic programs. Needless to say without JP we would be totally screwed already and probably would have had to drop out of the Big XII for financial reasons. Yeah this current situation sucks but I am glad that we may be forced to switch conferences against our will rather then switching conferences because our athletic department was a trainwreck. Big difference.
I'm going to TOTALLY disagree with this. The Big 12 provides Iowa State with research money. Iowa State isn't going to pull all of that on their own. Anything short of the Big 10 hurts Iowa State BADLY. No research money = no research = no quality faculty = less than acceptable programs.
You're operating on the faulty premise that the B12 is going to be around to provide research money.
By the way, do you have a reference to those figures?
Isn't he pointing out as much?. I read his post as "given the Big 12 will not be around to provide the $$$ for research that it currently does, ISU needs to find a new home. If that home is not the Big 10 or Pac-10, it will hurt the research investment".
I suppose he is, but he still isn't providing any figures to back up his argument.
Whatever excuses you have to make...the fact is no one here is able to refute it, or even demonstrate why their perception is correct.
Have you refuted DaddyMac? Seems like you should be able to recognize a good excuse when you see one.
Back to my "perception" that the Big 10 raises the academics of the institutions that join:
Penn State University is proof positive that associating with the Big Ten would most likely enhance any university, professors and administrators there say.
In 1990, when Penn State joined the conference, the university's professor salaries were lower than those of their new counterparts. Penn State also brought in fewer top-notch students and fewer federal research dollars than many other Big Ten schools, said Nichols, the former faculty president.
Now the college is virtually indistinguishable from other Big Ten schools. It collected and spent some $400 million in federal research money in 2008 — the 15th highest total in the country — and was rated the 15th best public university in the country last year.
Professor salaries have increased. So has the quality of faculty hires, incoming students and virtually every other measurable characteristic, Nichols said.
“I think at Penn State we said, ‘Well, we're a Big Ten university now. Let's act like one,” he said. “It raised the bar.”
-from http://www.omaha.com/article/20100609/NEWS01/706099919
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There will always be people that criticize JP for certain things.. Like I did for the transfer letter, but that doesn't make me a "hater". In fact, I really like JP. I just disagree with the notion people come out of the woodwork to bash JP just to "hate".
Clearly being in the B10 is an advantage. I have not contested that.
I am just saying that if your concern is academics then being out of the B12 and being in a non-BCS conference isn't automatically a major step down.
Link?
Kidding, kind of.
In 2004/2005 the Big 12 was last in average amount of federal $$ brought in for research. Old data, but probably not outdated. New data can be found at http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf. However, what non-BCS conference that plays major college football (or basketball for that matter) would have a higher ranking? The MAC?
Until you can provide facts that support your claim, your posts on this topic are nothing more than being arrogant and ignorant...
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