Anyone who thinks ISU should just blow off the whole "Honor Before Victory" thing, I've got two words for you: Jim Criner.
End of thread.
End of thread.
Anyone who thinks ISU should just blow off the whole "Honor Before Victory" thing, I've got two words for you: Jim Criner.
End of thread.
Agreed. The whole Honor BEFORE Victory looks really stupid when you have a football program with the history of ours.
If he had won, nobody wouldve given a ****.
Honor isn't about what people think of you.
Well, judging by your avatar, you don't know much about either one....Certainly not Honor, and definitely not Victory..
Iowa State cuts as many corners as most teams. We don't have the deep pocketed boosters to go any further than that.
Hopefully, if CPR can get this thing going, and we start to draw the casual fan, then maybe we can land some whales that will help us be more competitive in recruiting.
The last part, I will add even though I shouldn't have to.
This schtick is getting old.... Those words hardly mean anything these days.
You have alot in common with Anthony Weiner, he has no Honor either.:twitcy:
Go buy your black and yellow hawkeye stuff, that is where you belong.:sad:
If you have to cheat to win, your a cheater not a winner.:shocked:
Morals and ethics, an Ethical man knows its wrong to cheat,
a moral man won't. :yes:
May your wife and children and friends beware of you, because you will dishornor them to get ahead.
Shame on you.
Go back and read my other posts. I'm saying if we bend the rules or work around the grey areas and it helps our program then I'm okay with it. Go take your moral high horse post somewhere else. I never said i wanted us to cheat and commit major infractions
Typical...younger generation wanting to take the easy road to success instead of working for it.
3 words:
"Honor Before Victory"
Yeah, I mean, we have been working on a conference football title for what, 80 or 90 years? That is working out pretty well for us.
Go back and read my other posts. I'm saying if we bend the rules or work around the grey areas and it helps our program then I'm okay with it. Go take your moral high horse post somewhere else. I never said i wanted us to cheat and commit major infractions
God has no relevence here... Sorry take that to the politics-religion section.CyDude, you posted your opnion, I gave my reaction.
From my White Horse I will offer you more to think over.
My dad taught me my moral compass with this saying,
"You are, what you are, before the eyes of God.
Nothing anyone says for you or against you will change his opnion of You.
Man judges you by accomplishments, God by the intention of your heart."
You have a nice day.
I don't think we need to cheat though; I'm all for being relaxed academically and poaching recruits though. Maybe some negative recruiting for good measure.
PR is an ex-SEC DC. He know how to do this and offering a committed kid is proof. I was very happy to see this. It's time to shed the "aw shucks nice Iowa farm boys bull****" and commit to winning. PR is doing this and I think he's probably doing it w/o cheating (capital "C").
Seems ironic that the last time we made a strong resurgence in a sport was when Gene Smith and Tim Floyd were here at the same time. I personally liked them both and that was a fun time but in retrospect it makes me wonder if we were on the up and up, just bending or flat oput breaking?
Well, judging by your avatar, you don't know much about either one....Certainly not Honor, and definitely not Victory..
Iowa State cuts as many corners as most teams. We don't have the deep pocketed boosters to go any further than that.
Hopefully, if CPR can get this thing going, and we start to draw the casual fan, then maybe we can land some whales that will help us be more competitive in recruiting.
The last part, I will add even though I shouldn't have to.
Go back and read my other posts. I'm saying if we bend the rules or work around the grey areas and it helps our program then I'm okay with it. Go take your moral high horse post somewhere else. I never said i wanted us to cheat and commit major infractions
and if it means we have to commit some small violations, then I'm perfectly okay with that.
Does anyone here think we might of cheated a little during our successful years in basketball while Floyd was coaching the mens basketball program?
It wouldn't bother me at all if we cheated, since I believe most of our competition does.