Anyone who thinks ISU should just blow off the whole "Honor Before Victory" thing, I've got two words for you: Jim Criner.
End of thread.
End of thread.
But guess what - he didn't. He cheated and still lost.
Besides, the NCAA may be hesitant to pull the "death penalty trigger" on schools like USC or OSU, but I bet they wouldn't think twice about using it against ISU as proof that they would in fact still use it.
If I ever found out that ISU was repetitively intentionally incurring major NCAA violations to try to gain a leg up on its competition, I'd go find another school to cheer for.
Well, judging by your avatar, you don't know much about either one....Certainly not Honor, and definitely not Victory..
Iowa State cuts as many corners as most teams. We don't have the deep pocketed boosters to go any further than that.
Hopefully, if CPR can get this thing going, and we start to draw the casual fan, then maybe we can land some whales that will help us be more competitive in recruiting.
The last part, I will add
Well, judging by your avatar, you don't know much about either one....Certainly not Honor, and definitely not Victory..
Iowa State cuts as many corners as most teams. We don't have the deep pocketed boosters to go any further than that.
Hopefully, if CPR can get this thing going, and we start to draw the casual fan, then maybe we can land some whales that will help us be more competitive in recruiting.
The last part, I will addeven though I shouldn't have to.
I don't know what a goofy avatar of DMac has to do with anything other than having some fun.
You have alot in common with Anthony Weiner, he has no Honor either.:twitcy:
Go buy your black and yellow hawkeye stuff, that is where you belong.:sad:
If you have to cheat to win, your a cheater not a winner.:shocked:
Morals and ethics, an Ethical man knows its wrong to cheat,
a moral man won't. :yes:
May your wife and children and friends beware of you, because you will dishornor them to get ahead.
Shame on you.
Typical...younger generation wanting to take the easy road to success instead of working for it.
You have alot in common with Anthony Weiner, he has no Honor either.:twitcy:
Go buy your black and yellow hawkeye stuff, that is where you belong.:sad:
If you have to cheat to win, your a cheater not a winner.:shocked:
Morals and ethics, an Ethical man knows its wrong to cheat,
a moral man won't. :yes:
May your wife and children and friends beware of you, because you will dishornor them to get ahead.
Shame on you.
Go back and read my other posts. I'm saying if we bend the rules or work around the grey areas and it helps our program then I'm okay with it. Go take your moral high horse post somewhere else. I never said i wanted us to cheat and commit major infractions
Yeah, I mean, we have been working on a conference football title for what, 80 or 90 years? That is working out pretty well for us.
I don't think we need to cheat though; I'm all for being relaxed academically and poaching recruits though. Maybe some negative recruiting for good measure.
PR is an ex-SEC DC. He know how to do this and offering a committed kid is proof. I was very happy to see this. It's time to shed the "aw shucks nice Iowa farm boys bull****" and commit to winning. PR is doing this and I think he's probably doing it w/o cheating (capital "C").
CyDude, you posted your opnion, I gave my reaction.
From my White Horse I will offer you more to think over.
My dad taught me my moral compass with this saying,
"You are, what you are, before the eyes of God.
Nothing anyone says for you or against you will change his opnion of You.
Man judges you by accomplishments, God by the intention of your heart."
You have a nice day.
God has no relevence here... Sorry take that to the politics-religion section.CyDude, you posted your opnion, I gave my reaction.
From my White Horse I will offer you more to think over.
My dad taught me my moral compass with this saying,
"You are, what you are, before the eyes of God.
Nothing anyone says for you or against you will change his opnion of You.
Man judges you by accomplishments, God by the intention of your heart."
You have a nice day.
Seems ironic that the last time we made a strong resurgence in a sport was when Gene Smith and Tim Floyd were here at the same time. I personally liked them both and that was a fun time but in retrospect it makes me wonder if we were on the up and up, just bending or flat oput breaking?
IF CPR learned anything in the SEC, it would be recruiting kids you want even after they are committed. I am pretty sure he learned a lot more too:yes:.
Apparently you missed out on the 2000 football season and 1999-2001 basketball seasons, which were the Vandevelde/McCarney/Eustachy era (man I want to stab myself for showing Vandevelde in a positive light...)
Well, judging by your avatar, you don't know much about either one....Certainly not Honor, and definitely not Victory..
Iowa State cuts as many corners as most teams. We don't have the deep pocketed boosters to go any further than that.
Hopefully, if CPR can get this thing going, and we start to draw the casual fan, then maybe we can land some whales that will help us be more competitive in recruiting.
The last part, I will add
That doesn't even make sense. You judge people by their avatars? :biglaugh:
Small violations? What do you consider small? Last time I checked cheating is cheating. If I look over at my partners test for just ONE answer instead of multiple answers, it is still considered cheating.
Didn't Kenny Pratt get a DUI while driving a new car (mustang I think) that was registered to some booster? That sounds like a Floyd move.
