Let's not assume that every orphan of war becomes a terrorist- that is just silly.
Large terrorist attack in India
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Let's not assume that every orphan of war becomes a terrorist- that is just silly.
I guess you're eager to throw away innocent lives as long as it's not your own (or your son's).
Can't we all just get along??? We are never going to kill / capture all of them, we need to find a way to co-exist with them. Life is too short for our military to loose lives over killing people that they have never met or talked to. Maybe Obama is the man to reach out and find a way to communicate with them to find a way for everyone in the world to find peace. Just tired of them blowing **** up and we blow their **** up.
Was not assuming that at all. I apologize if I worded it so. Now that I go and read it, thats what it looks likes I meant =)
I think Landshark is spot on. If the liberal media wasn't so bent on finding something we are doing wrong in Iraq/Afghanistan, then we could have gone in and taken care of business instead of making sure we are being PC. Instead, they want to concentrate on the casualties that up until now doesn't even add up to one D-Day. Get in there, turn the places we need to into lakes and get out.
And I have family that is either over there or have been over there so don't throw the "if you lost family you would look at if differently" card. We have been fortunate so far but we all know what my friends/family signed up for and what it represents so we deal with it.
By the way, these same family/friends that are/have been over there about want to puke when the see what happens over there first hand and the progress being made only to come back "Home" and here the news reports saying how bad it is.
Pathetic.
And I have family that is either over there or have been over there so don't throw the "if you lost family you would look at if differently" card. We have been fortunate so far but we all know what my friends/family signed up for and what it represents so we deal with it.
By the way, these same family/friends that are/have been over there about want to puke when the see what happens over there first hand and the progress being made only to come back "Home" and here the news reports saying how bad it is.
Pathetic.
Whats insane is that we have people on this board that believe its ok to kill thousands of innocent people, as long as we get the ones we are going after.:sad::sad: Did we not learn anything from Heroshima/Nagasaki?:no: I mean, if some people around here had their way, we may as well be Nazi's:wideeyed::wideeyed:
Yes. I find it highly ironic that, while railing against extremists, some people are calling for the killing of millions of people, most of whom did absolutely nothing wrong.
Yeah. What's the deal with the media reporting all those facts about what's happening in Iraq? How dare they.
I wouldn't mind it if they reported ALL the facts objectively. Very little reported about the good going on there.
The "If it bleeds, it leads" mentality paints a much different picture than what is really happening.
Present the facts you say? Now that is hilarious ! The friends I know are over there in the middle of it all. They come home and watch the news and hear a totally different story.
Them aren't the facts .........
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I've known hundreds of soldiers that have been there, and every single one of them says what cyclonesrule91 is saying.
The media is reporting something, but they don't tend to worry about facts a whole lot.
A large terrorist attack takes place and we've got people arguing over politics.
No, this had no impact on today's events. However, it's a perfect synopsis of why this country is struggling on a few fronts. Plenty of bickering and not a ton of proactive action.
No, this had no impact on today's events. However, it's a perfect synopsis of why this country is struggling on a few fronts. Plenty of bickering and not a ton of proactive action.
I actually think this is a great debate, I'll throw some more opinions out there by people who know a whole lot more than I do.
Ralph Peters, Middle East analyst, author of several books writes," Never listen to those who warn that ferocity on our part reduces us to the level of terrorists....Historically we have proven time after time that we can do a tough, dirty job for our country without any damage to our nation's moral fibre."
Mr. Peters believes in the tenets of George Washington and John Adams in staying out of international affairs that have no bearing on us a nation. He states,"We Americans must avoid fantastic schemes to rescue those for whom we bear no responsiblitly. In dealing with nationalism and fundamentalism we must be willing to let the flames burn themselves out whenever we are not in danger of catching fire ourselves. If we want to avoid the needless, thankless deaths of our own countrymen, we must learn to watch others die with equanimity."
Michael Scheuer, Imperial Hubris, writes," Only in todays America could the simple statement of fact that much of Islam is fighting us, and more is leaning that way, be labeled discriminatory or racist, a label that kills thought, debate, and ultimately, Americans."
I could go on and on, keep in mind these two analysts recognize our faults in policy towards Muslims over the decades and are not fans of war, in fact Michael Scheuer has articles published in Anti-War.com. They are just dealing with the facts laid out before us in present time.
Sad, but probably true. It will never happen. Americans are compassionate about helping others... until the people we are helping quit asking for our help.
No, we cannot. The sooner we understand that, the better. They hate us for who we are and what we stand for. We could stop fighting now, pull out of all of our forward bases around the world, and renounce the war publicly, and they would still want to kill us. I do not believe even Obama is naive enough to think that he can negotiate with that kind of people.
The media is not reporting ALL the facts. They rarely talk about how well the surge worked because it does not fit their agenda.
