KU, KSU, and Mizzou to the Big East?

[CyForPresident]

BYU and ND are the top choices. TCU is option #3.

Notre Dame's NBC contact ends in 2015. We'll be a 10 team conference for at least 5 years.

 

[jaretac]

Although I'm not going to jump off a cliff yet, I do have to say that this is not a completely unrealistic scenario. The BigEast is obviously trying to make a move by picking up TCU not even two months ago. How can anyone not related to the BigEast say that they are not going after other schools.

From the Kansas standpoint I could see them still being ticked off about everything that happened last year and continues to happen. Basically the league prostituted themselves for Texas.

Last point. Someone said that it would be stupid for Kansas to give up that much money to go to the BigEast. Does anyone have any clue how much Colorado gave up? Short term, yes it would be a loss, but we have no clue how a massive realignment like this is going to shift things. Long term it might mean more money. Also Kansas is unlike most schools. Half the revenue comes from football, the other half comes from basketball. Most schools are more like 70/30 or even more lopsided. A move to the BigEast for Kansas would likely result in more Basketball revenue, which would off set the decreased football revenue.

In many ways I would actually be surprised if there isn't more of these talks before football starts again.

 

[ChrisMWilliams]

Just a few thoughts on this...

1 - NOTHING would surprise me when it comes to conference realignment.

2 - I'll stay consistent with this one. I think that a lot of people will feel a lot better about Iowa State's situation when the new Big 12 TV contract is announced.

3 - As Brent and I discussed in our most recent podcast, I don't understand why any Big 12 schools are upset about Texas' new TV deal. We knew that this as going to happen. Everybody did. It was one of the main reasons that the Horns didn't move west during the realignment craze. This deal didn't surprise anybody.

 

[alarson]

3 - As Brent and I discussed in our most recent podcast, I don't understand why any Big 12 schools are upset about Texas' new TV deal. We knew that this as going to happen. Everybody did. It was one of the main reasons that the Horns didn't move west during the realignment craze. This deal didn't surprise anybody.

In fairness, back in the summer, i think the assumption was that this would be worth a lot less to texas, just a few million per year maybe. Even texas fans didnt expect it to be this big.

 

[Wesley]

The money is not in the Big East. Their budgets would have to be cut for other sports. Come one, people, a Kansas move would kill their future football team. Oh wow, it is a home game for KU versus Villanova. Hip hip hurray. And last night they even lost to UT at home in bball. Could you see them losing 2 or 3 at home conference games in the Big East? They would become more irrelevant in the Big East. This is big talk, but small brains. What is funny is that it might help KSU more than KU due to bball recruiting.

 

[Tornado man]

When the Big 12 goes to look for that new TV contract, they will be disappointed in what they get now that Texas will have its own network. ​

Even though Texas still has a lot of football games left to package, more than 90% of the Big 12's market is Texas...let's analyze this for a second: Manhattan, Ames, Columbia, Lawrence, etc... we lost a lot of coverage with this deal.​

The Big 12 will fall apart within the next couple years...especially when they go to sign the Big 12 network and find that there isnt as much money as they originally thought. ​

There's no way ESPN is paying this kind of money for secondary sports and one football game. They're making an investment for more in the future, and that means less, not more, for ISU.

 

[xboxfever]

Hey Clonedude, KU just announced they are joining the Big East. They are going to keep it hush hush until June. It's true, because I posted it on a message board.

It's already known that the 4 remaining north teams have already made plans with the Big East to join if the Big 12 goes under. Let's not freak out about everything we read on a message board.

 

[acgclone]

When the Big 12 goes to look for that new TV contract, they will be disappointed in what they get now that Texas will have its own network. ​

Even though Texas still has a lot of football games left to package, more than 90% of the Big 12's market is Texas...let's analyze this for a second: Manhattan, Ames, Columbia, Lawrence, etc... we lost a lot of coverage with this deal.​

The Big 12 will fall apart within the next couple years...especially when they go to sign the Big 12 network and find that there isnt as much money as they originally thought. ​

There's no way ESPN is paying this kind of money for secondary sports and one football game. They're making an investment for more in the future, and that means less, not more, for ISU.

I agree, it's just a matter of time b4 the B12 implodes. There is just not enough stability and it's every man for himself. UT is devouring it's host and when there is nothing left for them to devour, they'll become independent or move the the Pac 10.

I heard the Self radio comments live and he did include ISU, but that was before TCU joined. I hope there is room for us the 2nd time around because obviously KU, K-State and Mizzou are likely to stick together with us hoping to tag along. I seriously doubt those schools would fight too hard for us if the momentum was against us getting an invite though. So what made sense for the Big East this past summer (all 4 of us getting invites), may not be the same configuration next time.

 

[cyguytillidie]

Beebe needs to pull his head out of his arse and realize if he wants to secure his job he needs to add two more schools. Once we get this tv network started we need to go invite Louisville, Kentucky, Arkansas, Memphis, Houston, Tulsa, Minnesota, TCU, and LSU. Sure 2/3 of that list we probably have .1% chance at but what's the worst that could happen? They all say no and we're in the same spot. At least we're doing something.

Also Cincinatti and Notre Dame

 

[CyCrazy]

Beebe needs to pull his head out of his arse and realize if he wants to secure his job he needs to add two more schools. Once we get this tv network started we need to go invite Louisville, Kentucky, Arkansas, Memphis, Houston, Tulsa, Minnesota, TCU, and LSU. Sure 2/3 of that list we probably have .1% chance at but what's the worst that could happen? They all say no and we're in the same spot. At least we're doing something.

Bolded schools have less than a zero percent chance of leaving there conferences.

 

[IcSyU]

Beebe needs to pull his head out of his arse and realize if he wants to secure his job he needs to add two more schools. Once we get this tv network started we need to go invite Louisville, Kentucky, Arkansas, Memphis, Houston, Tulsa, Minnesota, TCU, and LSU. Sure 2/3 of that list we probably have .1% chance at but what's the worst that could happen? They all say no and we're in the same spot. At least we're doing something.

Take $10 and split that among 10 people.

Take $10 and split that among 12 people.

If you can't get BYU/Notre Dame, you're keeping the same size slice and making everyone's piece smaller.

Kentucky isn't leaving SEC money. Arkansas isn't leaving SEC money. Memphis is on the same level as a JUCO. Houston is already in an area we have the market. Tulsa is the same story. Minnesota isn't leaving Big 10 money. TCU doesn't help anything. LSU isn't leaving SEC money.

 

[xboxfever]

Beebe needs to pull his head out of his arse and realize if he wants to secure his job he needs to add two more schools. Once we get this tv network started we need to go invite Louisville, Kentucky, Arkansas, Memphis, Houston, Tulsa, Minnesota, TCU, and LSU. Sure 2/3 of that list we probably have .1% chance at but what's the worst that could happen? They all say no and we're in the same spot. At least we're doing something.

Random schools their wouldn't you say? TCU just joined the Big East, they are not coming. LSU? You were joking with that one right? It is unlikely they offer anyone, but if they do offer someone, it will be 2 mid major schools looking to move into an AQ conference. With Texas controlling everything, a team already in a AQ conference is not going to leave for the Big 12.

 

[cyguytillidie]

Bolded schools have less than a zero percent chance of leaving there conferences.

Why wouldn't we have a chance at TCU? Traveling distance would be much less.

 

[IcSyU]

Why wouldn't we have a chance at TCU? Traveling distance would be much less.

Why the hell would you want TCU? The Big 12 would be stupid to take TCU. See above about same sized pie and smaller slices.

 

[cyguytillidie]

Random schools their wouldn't you say? TCU just joined the Big East, they are not coming. LSU? You were joking with that one right? It is unlikely they offer anyone, but if they do offer someone, it will be 2 mid major schools looking to move into an AQ conference. With Texas controlling everything, a team already in a AQ conference is not going to leave for the Big 12.

Was pretty much just listing schools in our area. Some of those Big East schools might see a chance at a school television network. Just suggetions though. I don't like the thougt of just sitting here waiting for Texas to decide they don't like the Big 12 anymore.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Let's think about this. Football is king right? Ok, so you get rid of one good program, one **** program and one that is somewhere in the middle. You keep all your big draws. It seems to me the teams leaving will not be a huge loss in terms National TV revenue. The big loss becomes the St. Louis and KC areas, but in the end I think that the decrease in the amount of teams splitting revenue surpasses what a network will devalue the conference has. You still have historically the best 3 programs in the conference and IMO OkSt. and Missouri are about even. Texas is somewhat locked in because I don't know who else will allow their network.

I think it's funny everyone is so ****** of at Texas when it's been Nebraska, Colorado and then these teams if this is true that have caused all the problems.

 

[CyDude16]

Was pretty much just listing schools in our area. Some of those Big East schools might see a chance at a school television network. Just suggetions though. I don't like the thougt of just sitting here waiting for Texas to decide they don't like the Big 12 anymore.

Your posts show just how little you know about the situation, similar to clonedude.

 

[isuno1fan]

This thread is lowering the collective IQ on this board.

 

[CyDude16]

This thread is lowering the collective IQ on this board.

CF's collective IQ has been dropping for months now.

 

[CyCrazy]

Why wouldn't we have a chance at TCU? Traveling distance would be much less.

So what, TCU now has an auto bid to the BCS and can probably be at the top of the heap in the Big East for the foreseable future. It is a much easier go of it in the Big East they are not coming to the Big 12.