Jefferson NOT gone.
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truly a visionary ahead of his time.
Pretty sure a union might actually hurt the players at this point. It's the wild west and they are getting whatever they want. If they have to deal with a union, that gives the NCAA and Universities rights to negotiate rules with it. Which could hurt the players.
Are we at a point where we can ban the OP now?
Which is why if the NCAA had any vision at all, they'd have worked with the players on setting one up 20 years ago when that kid from NW sued them.
We could have had RULES and contracts and less poaching wild west crap.
A proposal for the Moderators, anyone disparaging a players family should have a permanent ban from CF. Anyone trying to contact a players family should have a permanent ban
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Agreed. I don't see a whole lot of incentive for a 5 star high school player to join a union. It's why I don't think the landscape is going to change much, going forward. They can't force a union on the players. And without one there's no CBA. And without a CBA, the restrictions that the schools would like to enforce are illegal.
At the same time, for all of the chicken little-ism going on, bemoaning the death of college athletics, we're still seeing high consumption of the product. The games this weekend had the highest ratings since 2017. A credible argument can be made that there really isn't a problem.
Thanks for posting this. This is exactly the problem. It made sense for players to get some of the TV and other revenue and to do commercials, sell stuff, etc. to make money. It makes no sense for schools to rely on donations from fans to pay players
And not for you, but in general calling We Will or other programs a charity is disgraceful. Paying players is not charity work.
You can lament that.... but I really hate to tell you this.
Its the reality of modern college athletics and the train is off the tracks. So it never getting put back on those tracks. People can either adapt to that, or go watch the NBA/NFL because thats effectively where college athletics is at. We are a minor league/development feeder for the pro leagues and that comes with a cost.
TBH it always was that. Now the mask is off is really all thats changed. Cant hide from the billion $ business anymore.
It has an impact, just not a positive one
I don't believe just because there is a system you have to play the game if the system is a bad one. It would be better long term if the system fell apart.
Unfortunately, becoming employees of the universities without them first being given an antitrust exemption to allow them to collectively bargain the defined boundaries for contracts would be an even worse situation than we currently have.
Just like pro sports, the top guys are hurt by having the structures of the leagues financials (salary caps, maxes, restrictions on FA) and the bottom guys benefit (league minimums, veteran minimums). In pro sports where there are salary caps, luxury taxes and the NBA max deals there would absolutely be teams willing to blow past those for the very top guys. Conversely there would absolutely be guys undercutting the current minimums, esp veteran mins to play in the leagues.
Chances are a big structure that include collective bargaining would probably provide more money and benefits to the borderline P5 guys at the expense of the top players.
That is just a work around. Call it whatever you want. The players do give back to the communities and surrounding areas they live in. Players deserve to be paid just like the rest of adults and they have been getting screwed for decades.
I agree to most of that, there was always of course a lot of money involved and players being paid. And maybe it's just me but the visibility of asking fans to donate seems new and of course the big change is players moving from school to school. I think long term there will be changes.
And honsetly do not care what others choose to do, just putting my support with anyone that thinks there should not be pressure to donate. For now I'll continue to chear on ISU and hope things don't get worse before the next changes happen
Agree they deserved to get paid
The question is how much $ is enough and more importantly where does that money come from
That’s just the beginning if private capital and Wall Street has its way
Companies like Nike and ESPN have incentive to maintain the value of their investments in schools. Why leave it to chance where talent goes? At least that’s somewhat legitimate marketing
Imagine getting ahold of an industry that generates billions but with customers donating to cover production costs
I can completely sympathize with you. Trust me. I have been very outspoken against crowd funding rosters. I dont think it actually addresses the core issue. College athletics is a billion $ industry and the people making that money are not financially responsible for the people who are earning them that money. Crowd funded rosters just pushes the hurt down to the people watching the sport who now are paying twice for quality TV. That sucks. So from my perspective I get it. I do donate to We Will. But I get what you are saying.
I just recognize that unfortunately there is nothing I can do about it right now. And I want to watch good ISU teams. TBF We Will doesn't blow up my phone like ISU Foundation does so I will take that (ISU Foundation if you are reading this it was a joke, please dont come after me for making these comments)
