Jefferson NOT gone.

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Agree, and CW keeps telling us that it would ’blow your mind’ if we knew how much TCU and Creighton paid for the ex-hoks. Not being related to ISU, why are these numbers so secretive?
I don't know why it's a huge secret, either. A little transparency across the industry would help. I imagine agents love whispering the bid numbers for their clients higher and higher by presenting an image of a "market" that may not be real...
 

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Agree, and CW keeps telling us that it would ’blow your mind’ if we knew how much TCU and Creighton paid for the ex-hoks. Not being related to ISU, why are these numbers so secretive?
My understanding is that both were 1.5-2 million, but to me that's not mind blowing. If you do the math on Duke's current roster, it's not far off of Ohio State Football's number. The only eye popper so far (imo) has been Dybantsa at 7M
 
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True, though I don't think that current law nullifies their ability to forge contracts that stabilize the process.
The NCAA's own policies prevent that. Definitely within their power to offer contracts. That's been a line that they have been unwilling to cross, thus far.
 

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Buying tickets gives you access to a live event. It's entertainment to some.

I agree, I don't understand why someone would donate to an athletic dept
People donate money to charities they care about as it can improve life for others.

Donating to nil you say has an impact. I disagree.

Why is it selfish to save you money to help you, your family or others in need. I completely don't understand why we would want to support this system of nil. I would rather the system fall apart then spend money making it worse.

I said its selfish to assume that other people will donate but you don't have to, not that its selfish to not donate. No one is saying donate money that you don't have.

But to tell people to not donate and that their donations have no impact is absurd. Of course they do. I have no idea why someone who claims to be an ISU fan is telling people to not donate to WeWill.

Even if you hate NIL and won't or cannot afford to donate a penny (then don't complain when people steal our players or we don't land transfers), it makes no sense to openly discourage other people from donating if you want ISU to be as successful as possible. Holy cow...
 

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Looks like just rumors now unless something changed but this would be a huge blow especially this late in the portal process. Iowa State just can't compete with the big money NIL teams so I was surprised, quite frankly, that Jefferson didn't move on earlier.
 
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Nope. Blum took a vacation in the middle of portal season. Good planning.
This is completely unfair. I’m literally at an NIL conference with corporations trying to raise more dollars to help Iowa State. Appreciate the reasonable folks on here, stuff like the above is what causes CW and I to lose our minds.
 

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It's not that people didn't see it coming. It's that they don't care. (At least that's how I feel)

The current situation is capitalism at its finest. Supply and demand.

People don't have to like it, but under the current laws, this is the way it has to be. State governments and the court system have found that the restrictions on player movement and compensation that the NCAA wants to enforce are illegal.

Yeah, it might hurt Iowa State in some circumstances. That's definitely a possibility. But those are the risks that you have to take.

It's funny to me you label this current situation built on donations to 501c's as capitalism at its finest. I think many of us that supported paying the players expected their pay to come out of revenue like a normal capitalist system, not charity donations.
 

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My understanding is that both were 1.5-2 million, but to me that's not mind blowing. If you do the math on Duke's current roster, it's not far off of Ohio State Football's number. The only eye popper so far (imo) has been Dybantsa at 7M


I think Duke got extremely lucky with the class they brought in this season. They had some game changers on that team. The next years team they have has a bunch of good players on it, just not the freshman next level type players. I have watched the Boozer kids play and they are legit good players, they are not Cooper Flagg though. If Duke keeps recruiting this way I think they drop down to a normal top 10 team instead of a top 4 team.
 
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This is completely unfair. I’m literally at an NIL conference with corporations trying to raise more dollars to help Iowa State. Appreciate the reasonable folks on here, stuff like the above is what causes CW and I to lose our minds.

Is there an open bar at this 'NIL conference'?

Are there babes walking around with pitchers of Ames Lager?

Then what are we even doing here!?

/s in case that's not obvious.

That does sound like an interesting deal just to see what kinds of undertakings are going on with what imo is a huge mess.
 

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This is completely unfair. I’m literally at an NIL conference with corporations trying to raise more dollars to help Iowa State. Appreciate the reasonable folks on here, stuff like the above is what causes CW and I to lose our minds.

Wait, how are you not in Ames, but still posting on Cyclone Fanatic and communicating with people. I was lead to believe that if you are out of town you are cutoff from everything.
 

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I think Duke got extremely lucky with the class they brought in this season. They had some game changers on that team. The next years team they have has a bunch of good players on it, just not the freshman next level type players. I have watched the Boozer kids play and they are legit good players, they are not Cooper Flagg though. If Duke keeps recruiting this way I think they drop down to a normal top 10 team instead of a top 4 team.
Yeah, it may be 10 years before we see anyone like Flagg. The higher rated Boozer is completely legit though, has the perfect game to come in immediately and dominate the college game. Actually looks a lot like Junior year Joshua Jefferson with an even smoother shot
 

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It's funny to me you label this current situation built on donations to 501c's as capitalism at its finest. I think many of us that supported paying the players expected their pay to come out of revenue like a normal capitalist system, not charity donations.

Exactly. I thougth paying the players would not be everyone chips in to purchase a player. I thought it would be the University gives the team 5 milliion and you pay the players that way. I would be down with the NIL thing if it was actually NIL. Like dudes doing Nike commercials. However, I have yet to see Tamin or any of our other players repping a product on TV. Except Audi Crooks who has her Fareway commercial running every 5 minutes.
 

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The NCAA's own policies prevent that. Definitely within their power to offer contracts. That's been a line that they have been unwilling to cross, thus far.
I wonder why? It seems like this would stabilize things and protect their interests better. Is there a threat that this might take them down the road too far where people will be after them about them being employees?
 

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I wonder why? It seems like this would stabilize things and protect their interests better. Is there a threat that this might take them down the road too far where people will be after them about them being employees?


I am honestly not sure what the NCAA does anymore to be honest. They used to be the police of college teams. However, it seems like every rule that we used to have is no longer existent. SO what exactly do they do? I honestly don't know at this point. Might as well get rid of the NCAA and just allow colleges to keep the money they were giving them.