"ISU is the only loser in the new Big 12"
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Wouldn't you rather have 10 schools that WANT to be in the Big12 instead of 6 who needed the Big 12?
want and reality are two different things.
this is the best option for ISU.
unless I can get Doc Brown to take ISU back in time and magically put us in the Big Ten.
Hey Dubbs!
I didn't say schools didn't "need" their conferences but let's be honest, Kansas/Kansas State/Baylor/ISU/Missouri and Texas Tech were in some trouble if the Big12 folded, the other schools had pretty good options.
Dude, Texas has been making a boat load of cash going on 15 years now. Now all of a sudden the dynamics of the situation change?
Stop worrying about Texas and start concentrating on improving ISU. ISU has been given a stay of execution while at the same time receiving a 100% increase in revenue potential. If ISU uses this time to their advantage by increasing their football performance, Texas becomes more of a non issue.
Big12 conference with Texas running things or the MWC.......yeah, no brainer that it was the best case scenario but..........I don't trust Texas won't try and screw the conference again.
What's up Palmer?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we also get Baylor on the schedule every year? Doesn't aTm sometimes suck? Have we never been competitive with OU? Have we never beaten Okie State? Didn't we have to beat Texas Tech once en route to a really great season? Didn't this very team go into Memorial and beat a very fine Nebraska team just last year?
So, what this all means is that in order to do well, ISU has to win what remains of the North, beat Iowa and do well against a few of the south teams. Texas runs the show and has earned the right to make more money than God. What, exactly, has changed?
When we joined the Big 12, everyone was worried that we'd lose a cupcake game from the schedule, everyone else in the league laughed that we were "[SIZE=-1]Iowa State - A Band With A Football Problem"[/SIZE] and "Iowa State - A Team With Losses to Schools that Sound Like Campgrounds" (I've got the old print articles - back when articles were done in print). What happened? We got better. A lot better. We competed, scratched and clawed our way to a (yes, modest, but light years beyond where we'd been) unprecedented run for a program against the best competition across the schedule. Ever.
Come on, girls. Hitch up your skirts and let's do this. Never forget that Steve Deace is the C3PO of Cyclone Nation. Thank God CPR is Han Solo, in charge, and always shoots first.
The Force, for once, is with us.
So, what this all means is that in order to do well, ISU has to win what remains of the North, beat Iowa and do well against a few of the south teams. Texas runs the show and has earned the right to make more money than God. What, exactly, has changed?
When we joined the Big 12, everyone was worried that we'd lose a cupcake game from the schedule, everyone else in the league laughed that we were "[SIZE=-1]Iowa State - A Band With A Football Problem"[/SIZE] and "Iowa State - A Team With Losses to Schools that Sound Like Campgrounds" (I've got the old print articles - back when articles were done in print). What happened? We got better. A lot better. We competed, scratched and clawed our way to a (yes, modest, but light years beyond where we'd been) unprecedented run for a program against the best competition across the schedule. Ever.
Come on, girls. Hitch up your skirts and let's do this. Never forget that Steve Deace is the C3PO of Cyclone Nation. Thank God CPR is Han Solo, in charge, and always shoots first.
The Force, for once, is with us.
Wanting to be in a conference and needing to be in a conference are not mutually exclusive.
The reason UT wanted to be in the Pac-10 was money. They get that now in the Big 12.
Easy answer. What any capitalistic freedom loving american would say. It is better to be given a chance to succeed competing against the best. You do not make small people big, by cutting off the legs of the giants. We are being given the opportunity to elevate our position in life. I hope we are able to take advantage of that opportunity. Success and accomplishment are earned, not given. Under your line of thinking Indiana, Purdue, Minny, NW, and Illinois should be looking to leave the Big 10. Think they are considering conf. usa so they can be more competitive? Heck no, they are thinking about what it takes to improve their lot where they are at. In our conference, the rich got richer and the poor got richer. The poor can get even richer if they take advantage of the opportunity given them. I'll take my chances in our new league. I too am in favor of dropping the Iowa series. It is a lose/lose for us.[/QUOTE]
I agree with all this except dropping Iowa - still unsure about that. There are still people looking at the down side way too much. Yes we play TX, OU every year but that means we play Baylor, OSU & TT every year and even though we might not have had much success against Baylor, OSU & TT it may be better or as good of success as we have had against NU and CU. I also think NU and CU not being in the Big Xll helps us in recruiting Texas because they don't play in the Big XII any more. If we get good coaching we can complete - we have always had less money - it's time to start looking for the positives and not the negatives.
Texas will become a non factor for ISU? Did you have a bowl of crack rocks for breakfast?
This is just me, but I'd rather have Texas come into our place and have a tiny shot at winning (and by tiny, I mean really small) rather than pay to watch us beat up on Akron and Bowling Green...
Take for example the Oklahoma game 2 years ago (I believe it was 2 years ago). We gave them a heck of a game with a pretty poor team. While a game like this is clearly the "exception to the rule", I think that is both more fun as a spectator and creates a better opportunity for our team to get better and compete nationally than beating up on MAC schools.
Take for example the Oklahoma game 2 years ago (I believe it was 2 years ago). We gave them a heck of a game with a pretty poor team. While a game like this is clearly the "exception to the rule", I think that is both more fun as a spectator and creates a better opportunity for our team to get better and compete nationally than beating up on MAC schools.
coach paul rhoads and herman will surprise many teams this year.our offense will be in high gear this year with a healthy money and the new juco receiver we recruited.
i think the surprise of the year will be the new running backs we have recruited-shontrelle johnson and the running back from ft worth.
i think the surprise of the year will be the new running backs we have recruited-shontrelle johnson and the running back from ft worth.
This might be a stupid question but why did Deace think Iowa State the only one losing in this agreement? I know we had so many other options available, Big 10, SEC, ACC, Big East, Pac 10, everyone wanted us but we decided to stay.
My good friend P Green and I always try to work in a quote from Major League when we get together and I think this one applies.......
"I'm not much for giving inspirational addresses, but I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me, I'm for wasting sportswriters' time. So I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big ****burger to eat!" Lou Brown
My good friend P Green and I always try to work in a quote from Major League when we get together and I think this one applies.......
"I'm not much for giving inspirational addresses, but I'd just like to point out that every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish last. The local press seems to think that we'd save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me, I'm for wasting sportswriters' time. So I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big ****burger to eat!" Lou Brown
I realize your intellectual capacity in this matter is lacking so I will expalin it to you. I stated they become more of a non issue. Not that they are a non issue. It's simple, ISU is in a better position now then they were just 24 hours ago. ISU can use this time period to improve their football program thus making Texas less of a factor concerning any possible future actions taken by Texas. But go ahead and continue to pout about Texas. Whaaaaaa Whaaaaa.
A contender for what? We are one of 10, so we already are a contender. However IF you are implying that we will be a contender for the TITLE anytime soon (football) then pass that crack pipe around and let us all share. IB
I'm still not sure Texas will get as much money in the Big12 that they could have had in the Pac-10 (guess we'll wait and see)
