INSIDER: A few nuggets from the 8-11 scrimmage

dualthreat

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Define “buried”. I betcha he winds up being the effective backup at at least two spots, and gets plenty of snaps,


I think the ranking had much more to do with no one expecting him to qualify. There was a reason his signing wasn’t announced until he got his academics in order.


I can remember years under Mac that we barely had three. No way he was going to put anyone else one the field.

Pardon me, I’m going to have to go watch Rose’s high school film...

I'm going off coachVeidt saying he's behind 3 guys at his position. I know they'll rotate but we've also got Spears Harvey and Hummel
 

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All this optimism is causing stub hub prices to skyrocket. Knew I should have grabbed some tickets earlier.
 

clonedude

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He's ahead of the two guys our LB coach said are ahead of him? Or is he switching to outside

I've never understood why Northrup was even at the MLB spot? He's small for a LB and has good speed.... shouldn't he be on the outside?
 
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clonedude

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It sounds like Vance, McMillen, and Rose are in the top 3 at MLB, but then Northrup, Hummel, and Sutton are also mentioned for that spot too.

I can't believe that Northrup or Hummel are 4th or worse on the depth chart. I'd bet they are higher in the depth chart than that at one of the OLB spots?
 
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McMillen is a spirit animal for that defense. His vocal leadership has always stood out to me at practices I have attended over the years. Hope he earns some PT.
I love to hear that. He's a local (to me) kid so I have high hopes he can make some contributions before his career is over.
 
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It sounds like Vance, McMillen, and Rose are in the top 3 at MLB, but then Northrup, Hummel, and Sutton are also mentioned for that spot too.

I can't believe that Northrup or Hummel are 4th or worse on the depth chart. I'd bet they are higher in the depth chart than that at one of the OLB spots?

That's pretty much every scholarship non-true freshman linebacker other than Harvey and Spears. I agree with you that they'll fill in the depth chart at the other spots.
 

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Sounds kinda like they are all competing for the last unfilled starting position, but will all most likely see playing time across the three linebacker spots.

Kinda surprised Sutton isn't being mentioned as much. I remember him being a somewhat big-time get during his recruitment. Wasn't he splitting time with Lanning last season?
 

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Sounds kinda like they are all competing for the last unfilled starting position, but will all most likely see playing time across the three linebacker spots.

Kinda surprised Sutton isn't being mentioned as much. I remember him being a somewhat big-time get during his recruitment. Wasn't he splitting time with Lanning last season?

Yeah, if Northrup starts, he starts at SAM and Willie Harvey moves over to MIKE. I would guess that we'll see that on medium to long distance downs no matter who wins the starting MIKE job.
 

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I've never understood why Northrup was even at the MLB spot? He's small for a LB and has good speed.... shouldn't he be on the outside?

Isn't the MLB the one that does a lot of the setting of the defense? I thought that is why they put Lanning there last year, because he understood how to get people in the right place, more than he was a great LBer.
 

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That's probably true. But it raises one question, what the heck are the recruiting ratings using if P5 offers and quality are not a part of the rating?
Recruiting services have good reason to rate recruits from SEC country higher. More clicks come from those areas (rabid fans), so naturally it behooves them to rate those recruits higher to hype them up and generate more clicks.

My $.02, anyway.
 

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Isn't the MLB the one that does a lot of the setting of the defense? I thought that is why they put Lanning there last year, because he understood how to get people in the right place, more than he was a great LBer.
That is traditionally the case but Campbell has said he (and Heacock) use the safeties in that role. Last year that was KCM, this year Campbell has praised Eisworth in that role.
 

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The recruiting services are only able to evaluate the kids within proximity of the very best recruits. So Texas and SEC country kids get a lot of exposure, while kids from the rust belt and great plains states may never get a real look by an evaluator. These kids' reputation has to spread by word of mouth as programs look at each others' offer list. It's a major inefficiency in the "market" that I think someone like Campbell is poised to exploit by being a kid's first D1/P5 offer.

This is fairly accurate. I will say though that the recruiting services have figured out that thier is big money in this and they are evaluating A LOT more kids than 10 years ago. It's not just about the top 300 kids like it used to be.
 

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That is traditionally the case but Campbell has said he (and Heacock) use the safeties in that role. Last year that was KCM, this year Campbell has praised Eisworth in that role.

I have a hard time believing that the MLB's dont make calls in the defense. Usually, you have a safety making back end calls but that doesn't take out the MLB's role.