Illinois to offer beer at games

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So have premium stuff in there, and sell Busch Light everywhere else. And also let's not forget, those donations for tickets are no longer tax deductible. So, that could foster a change in time. Still, don't know if that will have an effect or not.

What is the donation required to get in the Sukup or Johnny's?

If there's one thing I'll never question Pollard for it's his ability to raise money. He's said multiple times at Iowa State is makes way more money to not sell beer to the public than it would to sell it
 

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We make more money off people upping their donations to get in the Sukup and Johnny's than we would selling beer to the public

Eh, there are plenty of other benefits to those areas than just the beer. And johnnys is really overcrowded at this point so taking some of the load off of it by spreading beer sales around might actually be a positive.
 
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Eh, there are plenty of other benefits to those areas than just the beer. And johnnys is really overcrowded at this point so taking some of the load off of it by spreading beer sales around might actually be a positive.
Johnnys could be 3 times the size. Not to slight the women but its really packed for their games too.
 
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Texas already allows beer sales in their football stadium.

They do. And it's already like this.

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If there's one thing I'll never question Pollard for it's his ability to raise money. He's said multiple times at Iowa State is makes way more money to not sell beer to the public than it would to sell it

If it is truly money, probably an insurance issue, that could make some sense. But at the same time, it is pretty hypocritical, two have exclusive alcohol in parts of stadiums, and promote tailgating, but not allow beer sales to the general public just doesn't make much sense.

If the argument is, yeah revenue goes up $6m, and costs go up $6m then I get it. Saying Iowa State makes way more money to not sell beer to the public, on its face doesn't make sense.

Come up with a system that requires a ticket scan and don't sell beer to students and don't let it in the student section, that I can see being concerning. But the rest of the general tickets seem like a no brainer.

Also, why would all these other colleges add it if it didn't make money? Why is that different at ISU, other than the AD is against it? Why do they sell beer and wine at literally any adult event you go to? It has been ages since I have been to Stephens Auditorium, so they sell alcohol in there?
 

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From stadiums that I've been in like WV, (new) Colorado State, (new) Minnesota, I haven't seen that many problems with beer sales to be honest.

WVU actually had a decrease in alcohol related incidents.

My buddies and I have been around the bush on this topic, and we think the real reason ISU isn't doing this is the perception that it would effect tailgating. ISU tailgating is what keeps the football program well attended through bad years, and pretty much everyone knows it. If you let the stadium be the party, it cuts down on the desire to pregame, which reduces the scope of the pregame scene, and thus reduces the number of people coming into the game.

It's not a moral thing - we already sell booze to 20% of the people coming through the gate. It's not a risk thing either - many other schools in our position have done it without consequence. It's a very calculated move to not kill the golden goose.
 

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I will quit being a Cyclone fan once we sell beer. I don’t know if you all have noticed but you are complete ******* ******** once you get two Busch Lights in you.
 
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Will they also be offering basketball? Seems like that has been missing from Illinois for awhile.
 
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If it is truly money, probably an insurance issue, that could make some sense. But at the same time, it is pretty hypocritical, two have exclusive alcohol in parts of stadiums, and promote tailgating, but not allow beer sales to the general public just doesn't make much sense.

If the argument is, yeah revenue goes up $6m, and costs go up $6m then I get it. Saying Iowa State makes way more money to not sell beer to the public, on its face doesn't make sense.

Come up with a system that requires a ticket scan and don't sell beer to students and don't let it in the student section, that I can see being concerning. But the rest of the general tickets seem like a no brainer.

Also, why would all these other colleges add it if it didn't make money? Why is that different at ISU, other than the AD is against it? Why do they sell beer and wine at literally any adult event you go to? It has been ages since I have been to Stephens Auditorium, so they sell alcohol in there?

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Yea, in some way, it is fairly hypocritical. One of the sells of the SEZ is booze, so why not let other fans enjoy a cold one

And excessive alcohol consumption was a problem in the SEZ in 2017. A letter was sent to the ticket holders nipping that problem before it got worse
 
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I'll continue to sneak in beers as long as JP refuses to go along with this
 

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WVU actually had a decrease in alcohol related incidents.

My buddies and I have been around the bush on this topic, and we think the real reason ISU isn't doing this is the perception that it would effect tailgating. ISU tailgating is what keeps the football program well attended through bad years, and pretty much everyone knows it. If you let the stadium be the party, it cuts down on the desire to pregame, which reduces the scope of the pregame scene, and thus reduces the number of people coming into the game.

It's not a moral thing - we already sell booze to 20% of the people coming through the gate. It's not a risk thing either - many other schools in our position have done it without consequence. It's a very calculated move to not kill the golden goose.

That makes sense I just wonder if it would really have much impact on people showing up to tailgate. If I enjoy tailgating I'm still going to tailgate I just might only have 6 beers before the game instead of 10 since I can purchase more inside. I'm still going to show up and tailgate though because it's fun and I get to hang out with friends and family. I just might not try to alcohol poison myself ahead of time.
 

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Maybe make the concession stand operation better before adding beer.

This. Jack Trice concessions could easily make another $500,000 a season by just having the items that are actually on the menu and/or being fractionally more efficient. I would have easily dropped an extra $100 personally at the game I attended last year if the lines would have been moving at all or if they weren't out of everything.

Example: If 10,000 people a game spend and extra $10 over 6 games you have it and more.
 
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This. Jack Trice concessions could easily make another $500,000 a season by just having the items that are actually on the menu and/or being fractionally more efficient. I would have easily dropped an extra $100 personally at the game I attended last year if the lines would have been moving at all or if they weren't out of everything.

Example: If 10,000 people a game spend and extra $10 over 6 games you have it and more.
it is really strange. Everything about the game day experience/ customer service at JTS is first rate except for the concessions which are by far the worst I have ever seen at a big time stadium or arena. I don't understand their thinking on this. As you said, they are losing a ton of potential revenue by not even trying to run a good concession operation.
 
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