How would you compare JB to SJ
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He took a zone read 60 yards on his first or second play.
He looked bad, but not quite as bad. Barnett looked worse than he's looked in his whole time at ISU in the bowl game.
SJ looked a LOT worse than JB in the bowl game IMO. And JB was pretty bad. SJ was awful.
I don't think you watched the same bowl game as everyone else. Both looked awful, JB looked worse. SJ actually looked real good at the very end(like usual) but Money's dropped ball in the endzone was again a killer.
No more necessary than just that.
I think there is a lot of Mary Kay being wasted on a pig in this thread when talking about the bowl game. Just like I'm sure our team feels, I would like to forget about that game.
He had him well-covered. That ball was thrown with a really high arc. The WR caught it with his hands out in front of his body (not over his head) after Reeves just missed it. He didn't outjump him, but just got fortunate on an oddly thrown pass.
i hope jantz is healthy for the coming year. i think he started the season very well until he suffered his foot injury and was never healthy after that. jb did well after steele was injured and won 3 games for us. they both will get playing time this coming fall unless sam richardson beats them out.. it should be fierce competition between the 3 athletes...
Who do you think will benefit more from the simpler playbook?
I think Jantz because he is more reactionary. The less he has to think about, the more he can rely on his instincts. Of course, this assumes that it wasn't his instincts that led him to through the bad passes. So maybe it will help Barnett because he can just focus on executing.
I think the simpler playbook helps Jantz more. Barnetts biggest benefit was being in the system longer and knowing the playbook better. A better grasp of the playbook and likely improved mechanics and look out for Jantz.
This may be the first time I've heard a non-white player described this way. I do agree though, he seems like he has a much quicker first step than SJ. Maybe thats due to being more confident in his decisions, especially on the zone read. JB is faster to the line of scrimmage but once Steele gets moving he's definitley faster.
It seemed to me JB wanted to run instead of pass, where as Steele tried buying as much time as he could and tried throwing before electing to take off.
I thought JB took off too soon and didn't look very fast, but he sold me with the results when he ran.
I think this is a good point, IMO the staff gave Steele a much longer leash last year and it backfired. It was a totally different offense from a playcalling standpoint when JB took over, and as a result the offense had more of a rhythm. With JB the offense actually had an identity and something it could lean on, when Jantz was out there it looked like a pick up game a lot of the time. I don't blame Steele for that, I think simplifiying the playbook would have really helped him.
I think this is what Rhoads meant when he said that he said right before the Pinstripe Bowl that he thought Jantz was better prepared. I think he knew that he was going to get double-blitzed all day and thought Jantz would be more likely to make something happen on broken plays.
SJ looked good before he was injured? What are you talking about?
On your first 4 throws of a football game, 3 of them get intercepted, that's not good in anyone's book. That is what SJ did BEFORE he was injured in the UConn game.
And then again in the bowl game, SJ threw some passes right to the Rutgers players with none of our guys anywhere near the ball. I mean it was just ridiculous how bad it was.
We will not be succesful unless either SJ or JB have become a LOT more consistent and accurate passers. We just won't. Unless Richardson passes them by and he is more consistent and accurate.
One of those passes right to a Rutgers guy was because Reynolds made a nice move and turned upfield. If Reynolds had stayed in his spot, it would have been a completion, albeit no first down. Reynolds made the right move. Jantz made a good throw, just the wrong one (if that makes sense).
He doesn't really know what hes talking about. Like its really his fault that a ball pops in and out of the receivers hand and into a UConn defenders.
