How many butts were in the seats for NU?
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Bullcrap. Students spend more money than I do on my seats and have just as many reasons as I do not to go. I was at the game last night but I don't expect anybody to go out of a sense of obligation. They should be going because it's fun, and it hasn't been fun.
I suppose, but part of being a true fan is showing up in the bad times as well as the good times.
Sometime (hopefully soon) we'll start winning again and I'll hold it over a lot of your heads that I was there through it all. It'll be that much sweeter for me.
Quite frankly.... nobody is going to care that you are a self proclaimed "Super Fan". You can try to hold whatever you like over other people's heads and I would venture a guess that none of them will give a rip about it. I personally know that I don't need your "true fan" stamp of approval. Your opinion of whether people are good fans or bad fans means absolutely nothing to anybody except yourself. Congratulations on that.
What an accomplishment.
This is nonsense. Iowa State fans are the last fans that should be chastized for not showing when times are tough. We have proven over and over that if you give us hope we will show up.
The reason people aren't showing up is very simple. It's been four years with this coach, and we aren't competitive. Not only that, people look at the make up of the roster, and wonder where the hope is for next year.
IF Greg could have shown in any of the opportunities that he had to knock off a big name, people would still show up. Everybody hates the word apathy, and I don't think that is it. It's more people feel hopeless about the basketball program. Until there is a reason for people to feel hopeful again, you will see crowds like this.
The same thing happened in '06 at the end of the McCarney era.
I read this and stopped reading assuming the rest of your post was complete B.S. You can't judge anything if you weren't there.
This is the best idea I have heard in a long time or at least today.
Without a doubt our ability to fill Hilton has been compromised by five years of bad basketball
With that as a starting point I really hope that whatever direction jamie goes, that the fans will not end up like at cha where 4,000 fans show up.
I remember going to Hilton with another 3,000 fans and the atomsphere was ... well...like...BasketBall non existent noise!!! I was sitting in the lower bowl and a lady sneezed 4 sections away and I could hear that over the players on the floor...
I pray to the Lord Above that I never have to experience that again!
You dont have to be there to see the crowd in the lower bowl, the cameras will cover that just fine. The estimates vmbplayer came up with were estimates of the lower bowl and the estimates of empty lower-bowl seats were fairly conservative (with an estimate of 80% capacity lower bowl)
Students were clearly seen vacating from the 1/3 full CA section on the TV broadcast.
You might have a future in working with numbers and be able to impress those you work with!
And it does no good to turn this into a best fan, student, donors, expensive vs cheap seats argument. Everyone is weary and not attending.
I agree with the premise of your post. All this losing for the last 5
years is really starting to wear on the Clone Fan base.:sad:
Yep, empty seats aren't picked up at all on TV cameras. Come on vmbplayer, go pick up a physics book and read up on some optics, cause you are talkin' like a freaking moron.
.... Seriously? Is this another "I'm a better person than you cause I showed up to watch a crappy bball team in person" post? How original.
when did i say the reason for my post was to be original?Yep, empty seats aren't picked up at all on TV cameras. Come on vmbplayer, go pick up a physics book and read up on some optics, cause you are talkin' like a freaking moron.
.... Seriously? Is this another "I'm a better person than you cause I showed up to watch a crappy bball team in person" post? How original.
I was at the last game, and am assuming there wasn't a large upper deck spike in attendance for Nebraska.
I've also not been to Carver Hawkeye arena for a basketball game. I am also fairly certain I can estimate how many fans were there based on a game. Last game I actually saw of theirs on TV, about 83 plus pep band.
The cameras easily covers about 3/4 of the lower bowl. Based on past experience of having attended a metric **** ton of games at Hilton, I can safely say that the 1/4 part that doesn't show up on TV is the same as the 3/4 that make it on TV. I can also from having been at Hilton for a metric ton of games tell you that the upper deck attendance is heavily correlated to lower deck attendance. It's a little science called statistics. Did you know it would actually be more accurate for the U.S. census to be done using sampling than a direct head count method as it is done now?
Now if only I could prove to you somehow that through the magic of television there wasn't tampering of the video that made the fans you saw while being there appear as empty seats on TV. Dang, there isn't. I'm sorry, video of an event can't be used to determine what happened. Quick let everyone who was caught on a security camera committing a crime out of prison.
A big problem with the way this thread (and many other similar ones) has gone is that some individuals tend to take every post personally and generalize that all other posters en masse are out to get them and denigrate their very existence.
Pleeease. Just respond with your opinion on the topic.
My thoughts: I was disappointed in the crowd last night -- overall and Cyclone Alley. I realize that a team playing but not winning as ours has been lately, coupled with pretty cold weather and a mid-week, late February date, most likely wouldn't draw the same numbers as earlier in the season. For the record, most of the section I sat in (131) was fairly full. I did not estimate the crowd, although I have done so in the past (journalism training, etc.) I am pleased the night ended with a win, and happy for the team and fans.
One more chance -- senior night -- for everyone to show their true colors. It'll be obvious what you think, whether you're in Hilton then or not.
Pleeease. Just respond with your opinion on the topic.
My thoughts: I was disappointed in the crowd last night -- overall and Cyclone Alley. I realize that a team playing but not winning as ours has been lately, coupled with pretty cold weather and a mid-week, late February date, most likely wouldn't draw the same numbers as earlier in the season. For the record, most of the section I sat in (131) was fairly full. I did not estimate the crowd, although I have done so in the past (journalism training, etc.) I am pleased the night ended with a win, and happy for the team and fans.
One more chance -- senior night -- for everyone to show their true colors. It'll be obvious what you think, whether you're in Hilton then or not.
Agreed that the crowd was very disappointing for the standards of Hilton and our program, but given how the season is going, it wasn't a surprise at all. It was bad all around, from CA to the high roller seats. Just take a look at that youtube video of the Brackins dunk in one of the other threads, CA filled maybe half of their lower bowl seats. That is awful.
