How confident are you in Paul Rhoads ability to make ISU a winning program

Discussion in 'Football' started by GoSTATE71, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. GoSTATE71

    GoSTATE71 Well-Known Member

    May 19, 2008
    Honest question. Will CPR ever win 8-10 games at Iowa State or do we have to be realistic with abilities and realize that 6 wins may be his ceiling? My buddy and I were debating this earlier today and I think someday Rhoads may have a good season where these upsets and passion result in some real momentum for our program and that the upsets against ranked teams aren't just flukes but an actual representation of a good football team.

    Maybe 2015 is my guess, until then I'm just going to try and be realistic and hope to see improvement. However, I will not settle with 3 wins. What bothered me most with his press conference today was when he mentioned, "No Iowa State is not past the blow out losses at this point, referring to OU and Utah in 2010" That really bothers me. No coach should settle for 50+ point losses and ever deem it "acceptable" and he pulled the "This team is young excuse, expect bad losses"

    Anyways, just something to ponder. I think he is right for Iowa state but he is going to need to make offensive changes at the end of the year for me to have any confidence. He mentioned today that the offense has been quote "God awful, terrible and that side of the ball is where we need to improve most" but if Messingham isn't gone then how serious is he really with moving us forward in terms of offense?
  2. oldman

    oldman Well-Known Member

    Nov 5, 2009
    I think we'll win 8 games next year.
  3. awd4cy

    awd4cy Well-Known Member

    Dec 29, 2010
    Eastern Iowa
    If he doesn't make a major change with the offense at the end of the year I am going to have to go with zero.
  4. Triggermv

    Triggermv Well-Known Member

    Jul 16, 2010
    Energy Trader
    Marion, IA
    I still stand by him and really respect the fact that he has been one of the only ones out there who has been willing to stand by us. This isn't an easy job to take and stick with through thick and thin, because there will be thick and thin here regardless of which coach we have.
  5. CyFan61

    CyFan61 Well-Known Member

    Oct 25, 2010
    I think we win 14 next year.

    CRAZYGREG Well-Known Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    Predictive Modeler
    Des Moines
    5-10% confidence
  7. Land Grant

    Land Grant Member

    Oct 30, 2006
    Honestly, Rhoads' success is coin flip to me at this point.
  8. rholtgraves

    rholtgraves Well-Known Member

    Sep 25, 2009
    I think he can make them exactly what he has shown. 6-7 wins at best with low seasons like this one. I don't think he has what it takes to make them a contender in the big 12.
  9. ThatllDoCy

    ThatllDoCy Well-Known Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    Chicago, IL
    I think Paul can win here. It will be telling to see how he addresses the Offense in the off season. If he rolls out Messingham with this Offense next year they will have to win 6+ or the seat will be hot.

    Juco recruits will be huge this year all over the field as well.

    I was hoping Kleinakis would have a positive affect on the OLine, and considering injuries who knows if it is his system or just a young group. The Pistol looks that we have added as a wrinkle seem to work, but we don't seem to stick with them.
  10. SerenityNow

    SerenityNow Well-Known Member

    Dec 4, 2009
    Central Iowa
    I don't know if he'll ever win 10 games, but from what I've seen so far, if he can't I don't believe there is a coach out there that can and would be willing to come to Ames to try.

    That's not to say I'm settling. That's to say as of today, I still have faith in CPR to take the next step. I just hope it happens soon.
  11. cycloneworld

    cycloneworld Facebook Knows All

    Mar 20, 2006
    Civil Engineer
    NE Oklahoma
    No one has ever won 10 games here...that's how difficult it is.

    I still have 100% faith in Rhoads although I hope he corrects some of the offense issues are adjusts the staff accordingly. If he goes into next season with the same group of coaches, that faith will dwindle.

    I'll tell you what isn't going to get us any close to 8-10 wins. Firing him.
  12. CycloneErik

    CycloneErik Well-Known Member

    Jan 31, 2008
    Grad Student
    All comes down to line play and the offense, and really just the line play.
    If he can get that down, and a consistent offense, then CPR is exactly the guy we've thought, and he gets it done.

    If not, then he can't.

    I think he can, pending some offensive moves that need to happen, and development that needs to happen.
  13. chuckd4735

    chuckd4735 Well-Known Member

    Mar 29, 2006
    It wouldn't be fair to ask me this question 3 days after the Baylor loss. Give it a few weeks and see where ISU is.
  14. ImJustKCClone

    ImJustKCClone Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2013
    Professional Pongid Pundit
    traipsing thru the treetops
    Show me a major University that has never been "blown out" or skunked in a game. Saying we are not past that is simply being realistic.

    We are certainly capable of flashes of brilliance, but I don't think we will be a dominant force in football in the near future, regardless of the coach. It's tough to get 100+ top recruits to come from southern regions to play outside in Iowa in November. The coach here has to be able to coach mid-range talent into contenders, and that's not a job for someone who sees this as a stepping-stone job. It takes someone who is committed to the team, and to the university, and it takes time. We don't have the luxury of being 5-deep with four & five stars at every position. Injuries & graduations will take their toll.

    I believe Paul Rhoads is the right man for ISU. He's good for the University, and he's good for the young men who play their hearts out for him. It may take some adjustments in staff, but I believe we can get to 7 or 8 wins in a season. Maybe not this year...okay, probably not this year. But perhaps next year, and in the years following. I don't ever want to see us go backward to the likes of what Gene Chizik did to us.
  15. Rabbuk

    Rabbuk Well-Known Member

    Mar 1, 2011
    I'll just go ahead and be the first solid no. Big 12 is much tougher with the round robin scheduling instead of north south.
  16. Wilson

    Wilson Member

    Sep 15, 2013
    I don't see him surpassing Macs level of success here. After what I've seen this year I'm not sure he can even equal it.
  17. CyJack13

    CyJack13 Well-Known Member

    May 21, 2010
    I agree. I'm not surprised with our record this year. We have had very little margin for error to have a winning season each of the last two years and have been a very good 6-2 in one possesion games. We were due for a season where our record in close games went the other way. Our recruiting is not really improving compared to other conference teams. You can't expect to have a 9-10 win team when you're consistently bringing in recruiting classes which are ranked 9th or 10th in the conference.
  18. cycloneworld

    cycloneworld Facebook Knows All

    Mar 20, 2006
    Civil Engineer
    NE Oklahoma
    In my opinion, he has already exceeded Mac's success.
  19. Wesley

    Wesley Well-Known Member

    Apr 12, 2006
    Envr Engr/Program Manager
    He needs a crack OC to be a winner. Paul, start cracking to find one now.
  20. ajk4st8

    ajk4st8 Well-Known Member

    Mar 27, 2006
    With the 9 game Big 12 schedule.... Im not sure anyone will ever win at Mac's rate here. If anyone is going to do it, it is CPR.

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