GMAC Is well Respected by Peers and Media

[Al_4_State]

Every year Mac says he's learned things and he's accountable for the team's performance, yet NOTHING changes. We just get worse. There are people on this board who are Mac fans first, and Cyclone fans 2nd, and they have to be happier than pigs in their own **** right now. Mac lives to coach another day in Ames, but talk about program rot. We're going to have 5,000 people in that arena.

 

[Palmer]

Every year Mac says he's learned things and he's accountable for the team's performance, yet NOTHING changes. We just get worse. There are people on this board who are Mac fans first, and Cyclone fans 2nd, and they have to be happier than pigs in their own **** right now. Mac lives to coach another day in Ames, but talk about program rot. We're going to have 5,000 people in that arena.

Do you know something I have not heard?

/razorblade at the ready/

 

[URBCLONE]

Reality check: just because the score is close, that doesn't mean the teams are. I am sick of people assuming that ISU always got the other team's best effort. We have not. How could we? Other teams and the media do not fear ISU, or respect us in men's bball. They are laughing at us now. We are not a threat. The other team, outside of Nebraska, knows it is going to win. They count us as a W before we even play.

My word. We have not been relevant in years. Hilton Magic is dead as disco. Close scores at the end of games doesn't mean the teams were close, it just means things were somewhat interesting, but the better team won. Consistently.

Why the **** would ISU hold on to a coach whose players and system, in four years of trying, is yet to come up with an upset over a ranked opponent or a signature win? None in four years. And people are arguing for more of this ****? Face it: McD is a miserable failure at ISU and is in over his head. He is bringing in mostly MVC talent to play in a BCS conference, that is why we always end up on the short end. He has shown us nothing in 4 years to make us believe that will change in the future. Nothing.

Good post, Frog. Completely agree. The most disturbing aspect of all of this is the dropoff in attendance at Hilton. I was there for the NU game and have never seen such a thin crowd for a home conference game.

 

[CarolinaCy]

Reality check: just because the score is close, that doesn't mean the teams are. I am sick of people assuming that ISU always got the other team's best effort. We have not. How could we? Other teams and the media do not fear ISU, or respect us in men's bball. They are laughing at us now. We are not a threat. The other team, outside of Nebraska, knows it is going to win. They count us as a W before we even play.

Would you please stop with this tired argument, you're making a fool of yourself.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

You are comparing the ISU situation to the quick "turnaround" at Kentucky. Kentucky.The place where they always get a top five recruiting class. A place where they have won 7 national championships.

I'm done.

That's exactly what I think when I hear all of these comparisons of GMAC early years here with the struggles in the past by Coach K, Gary Williams, Roy Williams and Johnny Orr. Those are coaches who have actually won something. Just as ISU is not Kentucky.....GMAC is NOT any of them!

 

[Cyclonepride]

Rat like Iowa fans? Is that really necessary?

Yes. Now scurry back to your hole:wink:

 

[snowcraig2.0]

Would you please stop with this tired argument, you're making a fool of yourself.

It's allot more rationale than saying it takes 5 or 6 years to rebuild a college basketball program.

 

[CarolinaCy]

It's allot more rationale than saying it takes 5 or 6 years to rebuild a college basketball program.

Really? Do people honestly believe that every team in the Big XII not named Nebraska simply goes through the motions when preparing for and playing against ISU, home or away? You seriously believe that every coach and every player on 10 other teams say to themselves, "no big deal, we've got ISU this Saturday, we can just show up and win"?

The level of stupidity on this site is simply amazing at times.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

Really? Do people honestly believe that every team in the Big XII not named Nebraska simply goes through the motions when preparing for and playing against ISU, home or away? You seriously believe that every coach and every player on 10 other teams say to themselves, "no big deal, we've got ISU this Saturday, we can just show up and win"?

The level of stupidity on this site is simply amazing at times.

I didn't say I totally agree with it, just pointing out that there are equally ridiculous arguments on both sides.

 

[flander1649]

People who have very good basketball knowledge other big twelve coaches and the big 12 media for example all have the utmost respect for GMAC and his ability to coach and recruit. They know he is a good coach and has the ability to lead Iowa State. Expect Jamie Pollard to come out this week or at the Big 12 tourney and give GMAC his full support. He is not going anywhere and we as loyal good bball fans will support this decsion and the team next year. Stay Loyal Clones do not turn into Rat like Hawk fans turning on the program and the Proud Cyclone Nation.

I also have the utmost respect for him too. Not because he can coach basketball, but because he is a great stand up guy. Not all good people make good coaches. I wish the best for him in his life but it is just time to move on. He has shown he can not coach in the big 12 it seems like every game he gets out coached. And like other posters have said other big 12 coaches want to keep him here as long as they can because they know they can chalk up ISU as a win.

 

[CarolinaCy]

I didn't say I totally agree with it, just pointing out that there are equally ridiculous arguments on both sides.

I'll agree with that. But when people start making up stuff like, "teams don't even try against us because they know they'll win", then I have to call them out on that.

If people want to present facts either for or against GMac, I'll listen either way, but leave your make-believe arguments at home please.

 

[CykoAGR]

These comments are so off base it's completely ridiculous. I'm not much of a defender anymore, but coaches don't patronize fellow coaches by buttering them up in the media by saying they're great coaches in hopes the school would keep them around for an easy win or two. Such a comment is so shallow it would be seen through and the coaches making those statements would lose tons of respect nationally. If one coach says another coach is a good coach, he means that he is a good coach.

What is an opposing coach supposed to say? "Man that GMac guy at ISU sucks, he and his teams seem to find ways to win games." This is irrelevant what other coaches say because they would start a ****storm if they said anything but positive remarks about GMac.

I know that you said you were not a supporter so I'm not attacking you I'm just sayin.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

I'll agree with that. But when people start making up stuff like, "teams don't even try against us because they know they'll win", then I have to call them out on that.

If people want to present facts either for or against GMac, I'll listen either way, but leave your make-believe arguments at home please.

The team has gotten worse and worse each season under Greg, and there is no make believe there. Simply look at our conference wins.

 

[JVAR]

I think most people on this site like Mac as a person and want him to succeed. I know I do. He is a fellow Iowan and agree that UNI is still successful because of the program that he built. I have met him two times. Once I got to talk with at the DSM airport while waiting for a flight. He couldn't have been nicer. With that being said, I don't think this situation will get any better. I didn't expect miracles this year, but at least to finish near the middle of pack and upset a few teams at home. ISU basketball is in a worse situation than when he took over and there has not been any progress. His players looked like they were having fun at the beginning of the year but now are frustrated. If there was slow improvement, then time might remedy the situation. When you only beat two teams in your conference in your fourth year, then something is wrong. I don't see recruiting improving as well. This state has some decent talent in HS coming up and it will be frustrating to watch them go elsewhere. Time for a change.

 

[BryceC]

Where on the "fan scale" do the guys go who admit they won't even watch ISU basketball anymore if the coach is not summarily fired at the end of the season? The ones that vow never to buy tickets again? High up there or down at the bottom?

Rhetorical question.

Does it freaking matter?

Rhetorical question.

 

[JCREEK]

The Big 12 is way tougher this year than it has been in years and we have been in about every game we are close to winning.

 

[Al_4_State]

Do you know something I have not heard?

/razorblade at the ready/

Based on KG's posts in the Miller and Deace thread, it appears we will be entering year 5 of the McDermott Error.

 

[Ames]

Don't even compare the situation Dan came into to what Greg came into. Our MBB was one year removed from the NCAA tournament.

They aren't comparable. Dan had a lot bigger hill to climb.

Saying one year removed from NCAA tourney isn't fair either. How many of those guys stuck around and you have the APR situation? Neither can be written off as nothing.

 

[BryceC]

The Big 12 is way tougher this year than it has been in years and we have been in about every game we are close to winning.

Well that's nice, unfortunately nobody let me sit on their tailgate on the way to Casey's for my slushy after the game. Plus, when is the post season pizza party?

 

[Cyclonestate78]

Do you really think Self, Martin, Barnes and others want less competition??? Wake up they want the best teams possible in the big 12 it helps RPI strength of schedule and everyhting else the Tourney looks at. I sure the cry baby whinners on this site know more than the big 12 coaches and Media. Do you really think we shoud start over and gut the program. Be patient it will get better.

This is one of the worst posts I have ever seen on this site.