Fertilizing my lawn for initial spring application

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It's dicamba and 2,4-D. Personally, the thought of Joe homeowner using dicamba is frightening. People that have sprayed herbicides all their life struggle with it.
The dicamba rate is relatively low and it's specified to spray at under 85 degrees. I try and only spray t-zone at under 75 degrees to make sure the volatility is low and also only spot spray and don't do a blanket application. It also contains triclopyr and sulfentrazone so it's extremely broad spectrum in it's control capabilities.

You're right that it's not for your average home depot going person and it's not available there either. It's also a bit pricier so that keeps people away, but when people want to smoke their creeping charlie, it does the job well.
 
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Has anyone used a power rake to de-thatch their lawn and clean up excess old grass clippings? I was thinking of renting one to do it to my yard but wondering if it is worth the time and money? If it is, is it too late in the spring to de-thatch?
 

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Has anyone used a power rake to de-thatch their lawn and clean up excess old grass clippings? I was thinking of renting one to do it to my yard but wondering if it is worth the time and money? If it is, is it too late in the spring to de-thatch?
I would think you could still do it and get positive results.
 

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Has anyone used a power rake to de-thatch their lawn and clean up excess old grass clippings? I was thinking of renting one to do it to my yard but wondering if it is worth the time and money? If it is, is it too late in the spring to de-thatch?
I rented one from Home Depot last year.
I don't know if I was doing something wrong, or if it was just a POS, but I couldn't keep it running.
It was like I couldn't throttle it high enough when running the tines; it would just die.
I got it to work but I had to go excruciatingly slow and ended up only doing my front yard.

Someone linked an electric one on Amazon that was around $150. That would be a good option since it would basically pay for itself after 1 or 2 uses, rather than renting.
 

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Has anyone used a power rake to de-thatch their lawn and clean up excess old grass clippings? I was thinking of renting one to do it to my yard but wondering if it is worth the time and money? If it is, is it too late in the spring to de-thatch?
I've rented them before. They will pull up a ton for old grass clippings if it hasn't been done. I will most likely rent one in early September to rip out all the dead grass from the fungus and then overseed. Should also aerate, but if I get that done I think I will just pay for that. That machine is a beast and I'm not getting any younger.
 

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I rented one from Home Depot last year.
I don't know if I was doing something wrong, or if it was just a POS, but I couldn't keep it running.
It was like I couldn't throttle it high enough when running the tines; it would just die.
I got it to work but I had to go excruciatingly slow and ended up only doing my front yard.

Someone linked an electric one on Amazon that was around $150. That would be a good option since it would basically pay for itself after 1 or 2 uses, rather than renting.
My issue with the $150 one is it's electric so you have to drag a cord around. It's also only 13 inches so you will have to make a lot of passes to get your yard done. Maybe if it had a rechargeable battery
 

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My issue with the $150 one is it's electric so you have to drag a cord around. It's also only 13 inches so you will have to make a lot of passes to get your yard done. Maybe if it had a rechargeable battery
I have it and like it but as I think was mentioned earlier the bag on it is insanely small so you are better off using it to get it up and then going over with the lawnmower to pick it all up.
 

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My issue with the $150 one is it's electric so you have to drag a cord around. It's also only 13 inches so you will have to make a lot of passes to get your yard done. Maybe if it had a rechargeable battery
Plus that buzzing electric sound isn't very manly... haha

I do agree with this but would also obviously depend on how large your yard is. I'd think for most residential lots it wouldn't be a huge deal to drag a cord around.

I'm also thinking cost benefit here. Pretty low investment for something you use once a year.
Those power rakes are heavy as hell too..
 

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My issue with the $150 one is it's electric so you have to drag a cord around. It's also only 13 inches so you will have to make a lot of passes to get your yard done. Maybe if it had a rechargeable battery
I have watched videos of people using corded lawn equipment and I'm always amazed at the lack of common sense. They are constantly struggling with the cord so they don't run over it. Does it take a rocket scientist to figure out that you start closest to where your cord is plugged in and gradually work your way away from the outlet? That way your cord is being dragged over area that you have already done and isn't in the way of where you are going.
 
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I have watched videos of people using corded lawn equipment and I'm always amazed at the lack of common sense. They are constantly struggling with the cord so they don't run over it. Does it take a rocket scientist to figure out that you start closest to where your cord is plugged in and gradually work your way away from the outlet? That way your cord is being dragged over area that you have already done and isn't in the way of where you are going.
 
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Glad I put Grub-Ex down last Saturday afternoon. Got some good rain to activate it. Probably will be putting down some Milorganite this Saturday if doesn't rain. I usually will try and get the first round on fertilizer down in March,weather permitting, and round two aroudn Memorial Day.
 

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Glad I put Grub-Ex down last Saturday afternoon. Got some good rain to activate it. Probably will be putting down some Milorganite this Saturday if doesn't rain. I usually will try and get the first round on fertilizer down in March,weather permitting, and round two aroudn Memorial Day.
I've never used Milorganite but considering trying it. Do you want to apply before dry weather or before rain? I'm already doing Earl May's 5-step program for lawn applications. In that case, is Milorganite unnecessary?
 

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I've never used Milorganite but considering trying it. Do you want to apply before dry weather or before rain? I'm already doing Earl May's 5-step program for lawn applications. In that case, is Milorganite unnecessary?
I am not sure about what they recommend, but I plan on putting it down before rain to let the rain water it in.
 

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I've never used Milorganite but considering trying it. Do you want to apply before dry weather or before rain? I'm already doing Earl May's 5-step program for lawn applications. In that case, is Milorganite unnecessary?
It's a slow-release organic nitrogen product. It does not need to be watered in. I don't think you would have a problem throwing milorganite in with a 4/5-step lawn program, but I don't think it is necessary. The Scott's and Earl May's program is synthetic fertilizer and works quickly. Milorganite is organic and works slowly. Myself, I eventually transitioned over to a mostly organic lawn program that includes 2-3 applications of Milorganite throughout the year.
 
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Has anyone used a power rake to de-thatch their lawn and clean up excess old grass clippings? I was thinking of renting one to do it to my yard but wondering if it is worth the time and money? If it is, is it too late in the spring to de-thatch?
If it has never been done or you think it looks thatchy at first glance, get the rental. The rentals are beasts, I got 7 full bags from my small yard.

The electrics are good for maintaining after the initial dethatch.

In my personal experience, dethatching has provided 5x the benefit that aerating has provided. I actually don't think I will ever aerate again, it has done nothing for me.
 

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If it has never been done or you think it looks thatchy at first glance, get the rental. The rentals are beasts, I got 7 full bags from my small yard.

The electrics are good for maintaining after the initial dethatch.

In my personal experience, dethatching has provided 5x the benefit that aerating has provided. I actually don't think I will ever aerate again, it has done nothing for me.
I moved in 6 years ago and it was new construction so new sod. It has never been done. I am thinking I should do it since I mulch with my mower
 

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I'd just use the 30-0-3 you have on hand and see how it looks after a week or two.
Thanks for the suggestion. It has cone alive quite a bit but still not quite where I want it to be. I might be getting too particular though. I was hoping the overseeding would blend some of the dark and light patches but that hasn’t happened yet. I’m not quite sure the overseeding has done much at all yet TBH. Probably needs dethatched. The back yard is a bit of a mess from the dog, kids and a failure of a pool installation.

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Next question is what the f is this white stuff? Im assuming it’s a fungus since it wipes off the blades. I thought it was from the pest people since it started around the edges of the house but it is now in random parts of the yard.

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