Durrell Givens Arrested
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Good point. There is a section on the letter of intent that says something to the effect that "will not use illegal drugs." Still though, it's disappointing.
I'm not a pot smoker at all, but I love my beer. If I had my choice of people to be around, drunks I didn't know or pot smokers, I'll take the pot smokers every day.
I don't really care one way or another if they legalize it or not, but if you take away the legality issue, I'm sure pot is a less costly drug over all than alcohol is.
I do know where you are coming from though. Thing is, you obviously have a different believe system than pot smokers, my guess would be those people would annoy the **** out of you weather or not they were high.
Don't worry. We don't like being around people like you either.
There are no surveys I'm aware of that put college drug use anywhere near as high you always claim it is. CORE's latest survey results are below.
A rational discussion would entail using fact-based statistics regarding usage, which you have demonstrated time and time again that you are unwilling to do.
http://core.siu.edu/pdfs/report09.pdf
I don't smoke. I never have, probably never will. As long as it's illegal I don't see the reward as being greater than the risk. I also don't feel like spending the money on it, and don't really see the need for it in my life.
That being said, compared to other substances, weed is pretty harmless, and the only reason I would condone it's use right now is two reasons:
1. It's illegal so you're supporting lots of the violent and dangerous activities that go along with it.
2. It's illegal so you have a chance of staining your permanent legal record
Both of those problems could go away if it were simply legalized, but people like you are setting this country back by following some dated social standard by putting weed in the same category as methamphetamine and cocaine.
Also yeah I've met my share of annoying potheads, but I've probably met more people who were REALLY annoying when they're drunk, and all they talk about is drinking and getting smashed on the weekends. People who drink can be real bros. Does that mean we should outlaw drinking and put all those people on a desert islands? After all drinking causes a higher percentage of deaths among users than weed, and is more detrimental to your health, although I bet most people on here arguing against the use of weed are all against prohibition as well.
I see the world for what it is, and IM the brainwashed one, give me a break.
Exactly what I was thinking. Nothing is more. A buzzkill than being around someone brainwashed or undereducated about illegal drugs.
I get so tired of people treating me like I live my daily life finding for just one more hit. Believe it or not, some people who smoke cannabis have other ambitions than getting high every minute of the day. I smoke about every weekend and I still plan on going to grad school
Yep, but 1 game suspension, and life goes. Might hurt Givens in his battle for the safety spot though... I expect major competition between Broomfield, Givens, Brackens, maybe Mutcherson.
Which, if anything, just shows how messed up our belief system in this country is. We don't count alcohol as a drug, when it's clearly a depressant, because of the negative connotations with the word drug. You don't hear anyone except for research scientists refer to alcohol as a drug because that would mess with the big brewery and alcohol companies plan to minimize the negative effects and classification of alcohol and demonize recreational drugs like weed.
Alcohol is just as much of a drug as weed, we as a society just don't view it that way because of how we've been raised. Alcohol as a drug is much much more harmful than weed.
Sorry, I had alot of fun in college and hung out with people who liked to party. I sometimes forget there are a lot of computer nerds who never leave their dorms, and the foreign students who are at the library instead of tailgating also.
But, I also assume that for every student who answers truthfully in those polls, there is probably one who doesn't for fear of somehow getting in trouble for telling the truth.
Another illustration of why it is impossible to have a rational discussion with you...about anything...
+1
This degenerated into a "legalize it" thread pretty quick. Even if it were legal folks, he still broke a rule according to his agreement with this university, which probably also stipulates that he not involve himself in alcohol related mischief either. So the whole alcohol v. weed thing doesn't really apply to this story.
I'm sure that's true, if your definition of rational is taking everything way too seriously.
Good Lord man, I'm sorry I didn't define an exact % when I answered "most" to his poll. Most of the people I knew at ISU did at least try stuff once or twice in college. But like I said, most of them were partiers, not stay at home types or study 24-7 types, which is probably where the disparity comes from. Yeah, that's quite a rational explanation, even if its not quite up to your standards.
I can see that angle if it were true, but I'm pretty sure students athletes who are 'of age' are allowed to drink alcohol, Given that Durrell is a redshirt senior I'd assume he's old enough to drink alcohol and smoke things like cigars and cigarettes if he so chooses. I've seen plenty of basketball and football players out at the bars drinking, so at least in the off season I don't think alcohol is a bannable offense.
So the alcohol vs weed thing can certainly be true in this case, and I think it's a valid discussion to have.
He broke a rule, and will be punished, but the fact that it is a rule in the first place is the thing most people are upset with.
Classic Hater.. haha .. after this last comment, I bet your a just a barrel of fun to hang out with. I bet you are the guy who just sits there and judges everyone because you are soo accomplished.
FIFY.
Are you against drinking alcohol? Do you think people who drink beer every so often on weekends should not get married or have kids? Should they be allowed in the military? Does anyone who has a couple of mixers or beers on the weekends need to go to rehab?
Just curious.
