**** daylight savings

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Thanks for the parenting advice. My kids get up before the sun thank you very much, but they don't have the same pep as when they wake up when the sun is up. That is a natural body instinct that probably dates back millennia when we didn't have electricity! No different than kids are always sleepy and cuddly when it is raining and dark outside.

Have kids stand on the side of the road in the pitch black seems like a great idea of rural America, I know this probably happens in some places now, but it will happen in a lot more if schools don't move start times. Which I think will happen. Which will then force businesses to open later, which will then just just mean we are back on standard time. So why not just use the already standardized time? Why is that so hard.

Daylight Saving is a made up thing that no longer is needed. Lets do away with it.

I hope ISU sociology department gets the data on how much more or less 8AM classes are attended if this happens. I can't imagine I would be real good at dragging myself to 8AM classes in the pitch black of the morning. But again, I am sure that is bad parenting. Damnit mom and dad.

Agree with some things here.. I think that school times should be and would be moved.

What business would need to be open later if school started 30 minutes to an hour later?

The Bold: This is a self control issue and not parenting. Time to take some personal responsibility.
 

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The Emergency Daylight Saving Time Act signed by President Nixon dictated that clocks would spring forward one hour on Jan. 6, 1974. It would stay that way for nearly 16 months, until April 27, 1975. Most people did not like the change and it was considered dangerous for children going to school. This was done to conserve energy during the energy crisis of the early 1970s. Other measures put in place included odd-even gas rationing, a national speed limit (55 mph), and shortened Nascar races.

Permanent daylight saving time makes already late winter sunrises one hour later. As I recall, the sun did not rise before 8 a.m. at my home in Minnesota for almost four months, between November and the end of February. The farther north you went, the later the sun would rise. Changing the clock by 1 hour twice per year is a hassle. But, not enough to warrant the change.
 

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Permanent DST
Aware it would create dark mornings
Don’t care
I can sleep in— I mean workout— in the dark if it means an extra hour of daylight in the evening all year.

This later hour of daylight has me all sorts of geeked for the lakes thawing and maybe getting a paddle in at the end of the month.
 

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I think some people are thinking that the sunrise time means someone turns on a light switch and all the sudden you can see again at that exact time. there is a Twilight phase that happens. you can typically see much better starting 30-45 mins before the official sunrise time. Just watch tomorrow. official rise is 7:22, but will be light out much sooner than that. I can see why people would be upset though with kid drop offs and buses, but I personally can't wait.
 

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There is no reason school should start before sunrise at any point in the year. Early starts are terrible for kids mental health, growth, and ability to learn. Multiple studies have shown this. School days should be 9-4.
 

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I think some people are thinking that the sunrise time means someone turns on a light switch and all the sudden you can see again at that exact time. there is a Twilight phase that happens. you can typically see much better starting 30-45 mins before the official sunrise time. Just watch tomorrow. official rise is 7:22, but will be light out much sooner than that. I can see why people would be upset though with kid drop offs and buses, but I personally can't wait.
Checks out.
 

madguy30

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There is no reason school should start before sunrise at any point in the year. Early starts are terrible for kids mental health, growth, and ability to learn. Multiple studies have shown this. School days should be 9-4.

I believe this to be a thing. Test scores, etc. were better in late start schools vs. earlier.
 

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I think some people are thinking that the sunrise time means someone turns on a light switch and all the sudden you can see again at that exact time. there is a Twilight phase that happens. you can typically see much better starting 30-45 mins before the official sunrise time. Just watch tomorrow. official rise is 7:22, but will be light out much sooner than that. I can see why people would be upset though with kid drop offs and buses, but I personally can't wait.
6:55 in DBQ and I can see fine