**** daylight savings

drmwevr08

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25624 is the same 70’s yacht rock that every lame band was putting out in a time of some super gritty vibes in music. (oMG it hAs HorNs!)

The Karate Kid ptII soundtrack is a thing of beauty in any era.
You're confused, but you can like what you want. 25 or 6 to 4 was 1970, well before any 'yacht rock' The Karate Kid stuff got too sappy and radio ballad for most people with testicles.
 

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You're confused, but you can like what you want. 25 or 6 to 4 was 1970, well before any 'yacht rock' The Karate Kid stuff got too sappy and radio ballad for most people with testicles.

Gunner likes to pull chains. It's his schtick. Just gotta roll with it.
 

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How are the farmers going to be able to drive their $500k GPS-guided tractors in the dark?

Grain farmers are too rich to get out of bed that early and have the hired help or children cover the night shifts.

It's the livestock producers who are up 4 hours before the sun that will feel this. But don't worry, their 1970's JD 6030 starts in light or darkness to pull the feed wagon
 

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Grain farmers are too rich to get out of bed that early and have the hired help or children cover the night shifts.

It's the livestock producers who are up 4 hours before the sun that will feel this. But don't worry, their 1970's JD 6030 starts in light or darkness to pull the feed wagon
I don't know too many farmers who use the beast of a 6030 to pull a feeder wagon, those things are loud, hard starting beasts. More likely a 4020, 4430/40. :)

But nonetheless, your last point stands.
 

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I don't know too many farmers who use the beast of a 6030 to pull a feeder wagon, those things are loud, hard starting beasts. More likely a 4020, 4430/40. :)

But nonetheless, your last point stands.

Huh? Per Yellowstone livestock farmers let them graze and really only need horses. They don’t need tractors or a feeder wagon… Do you even know livestock?
 

jdcyclone19

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Huh? Per Yellowstone livestock farmers let them graze and really only need horses. They don’t need tractors or a feeder wagon… Do you even know livestock?

Of course drama TV is always the preferred method of learning about a topic because they are always right. Raising livestock in Iowa is exactly the same as Montana/Wyoming because the land use and terrain is the same, right?
 
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Here’s an interesting alternative POV to the idea “The Senate passed it 100-0! Of course the House will pass it, too! It’s a slam dunk!”

Turns out it passed by “unanimous consent” (which just means no Senator who was present objected, there wasn’t a ‘vote,’ and all 100 Senators weren’t even there). Some Senators apparently didn’t know it was even being presented on the floor; Tom Cotton, who is a vehement opponent to the DST idea, was one of them.

Not saying it isn‘t going to happen, but it wasn’t the “100-0” amount of support it’s being painted as by some.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/daylight-saving-time-senate
 
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I'll be interested to see if public opinion changes like it did the last time we did away with time changes during the Nixon administration. It started out very popular, but public approval dropped by nearly 50 percent in less than a year and they ended the experiment.
I honestly don't remember them doing away with it back then
 

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I honestly don't remember them doing away with it back then
The U.S. experimented with permanent DST for about 16 months in the 1970s. President Richard Nixon signed the change into law in January 1974, shortly after the upheaval of the 1973 energy crisis, when gas prices soared. The change was dropped before the date for eliminating standard time was reached, after support for the switch fell in the face of dark winter mornings. Russia in 2014 reversed a decision to switch to a permanent summer time as its people struggled with prolonged darkness during the winter.

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti... before?-,Yes.,crisis, when gas prices soared.
 

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The U.S. experimented with permanent DST for about 16 months in the 1970s. President Richard Nixon signed the change into law in January 1974, shortly after the upheaval of the 1973 energy crisis, when gas prices soared. The change was dropped before the date for eliminating standard time was reached, after support for the switch fell in the face of dark winter mornings. Russia in 2014 reversed a decision to switch to a permanent summer time as its people struggled with prolonged darkness during the winter.

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-16/what-year-round-daylight-saving-time-would-mean-quicktake#:~:text=been tried before?-,Yes.,crisis, when gas prices soared.
I didn't realize that the bill that just passed the Senate still allowed states to exempt themselves to some degree. If Montana, for example, wanted to do permanent standard time, instead of daylight saving time, they would be able to do that. The bill would prevent them from doing the time change twice a year, though.
 

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I didn't realize that the bill that just passed the Senate still allowed states to exempt themselves to some degree. If Montana, for example, wanted to do permanent standard time, instead of daylight saving time, they would be able to do that. The bill would prevent them from doing the time change twice a year, though.
Probably will be several southern states that will go this route.
 

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I'll be interested to see if public opinion changes like it did the last time we did away with time changes during the Nixon administration. It started out very popular, but public approval dropped by nearly 50 percent in less than a year and they ended the experiment.
I could definitely see it changing. I like the idea of having permanent daylight savings time and don't think I'd care about it being dark in the morning. But I don't know that because I've never experienced it. It's entirely possible that if this happens, I'll realize I hate it.
 

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I didn't realize that the bill that just passed the Senate still allowed states to exempt themselves to some degree. If Montana, for example, wanted to do permanent standard time, instead of daylight saving time, they would be able to do that. The bill would prevent them from doing the time change twice a year, though.

States' Rights, baby! Montana should be able to set up Time Zone Enforcement checkpoints if it wants to. Make sure peeps entering the state have adjusted their watches or electronic devices to official Montana time.
 

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