I very seriously doubt that, especially when we were somewhat healthy.
COLUMNS: Five thoughts on Wigginton's return to Iowa State
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Not sure if serious, but we did play another final 4 team twice and only lost by 5 and 6 points.
It was hyperbole, but I do think they would have won comfortably.
I think Nick and Lindell will both run the point some and both start.
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Loyola beat Miami, Tennessee and Nevada before that. They had a shot at beating Michigan until midway through the second half. Loyola was a top 10 team last year.
Ok how about struggling with the #16 seed. That was one ugly game. They were decent last year but I'm not putting them at #2 next year.
There are far too many posts in this thread about Kansas State.
I would put that more like a 4 point spread on a neutral court.
It might even be close to a pick-'em with a game in Hilton.
Loyola was a good mid-major but not that good.
Do not let a few close games change the season's total results.
As I mentioned above, 30 points was hyperbole.
The transitive property in sports isn't reliable, but Loyola beat K-State by 16 points on a neutral floor and Iowa State lost to K-State by 16 in Hilton and 12 on the road.
They had a great run but come on people. They won those 3-4 games by a total of 4 points before the KSU game. Saying they would have run ISU out of the gym is silly.
Think you need to re-read the last line you typed.
Because they beat 3 teams in a row in March doesn't suddenly make them a good team.
They didn't belong on the same floor as KU and went 0 for against the top 3 teams in the Big 12.
And being a name guy Carter was free to foul 10 -12 times a game, at least, and get called for like three. Officials in football, basketball and baseball all have the same weakness, they get caught up in calling the name and not the game. Star takes it strong to the hoop = and one. Rookie goes to the hoop and gets hammered = turnover. Star pitcher throws it low or outside but close = strike. Star pitcher versus MVP second baseman and umps head explodes on close pitches!
Come on man, to say a team that made the Elite Eight isn't a qualifier for a good team is just ignorant. Had Iowa State made the Elite Eight last year we'd be fawning over them.
And sure, the last two times K State played KU, they were beaten soundly. But to be fair, they lost on essentially a last second shot in Lawrence, and in the Big XII tourney both Wade and Brown barely played due to injury.
I'm probably coming off as pro K-State, but trust me I'm not that. I'm simply trying to take a step back and look at them objectively.
Every year there are average teams that make good tourney runs.
Loyola is not a great team.
Syracuse the year before was not a great team.
Both got hot at the right time.
I'm looking at them objectively as well I believe. You cannot discount the fact they were on the bubble heading into the Big 12 tournament.
CycloneErik
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Back on subject.... what I really like is that LW has been saying "my team..." a lot in interviews. I really love that. Be the man LW and return us to the tourney!
