Chris Allen commits to Iowa State

[timappelgate]

2011:

Senior:
-Christopherson
-Allen
-Phillips

Junior:
-Babb
-Booker

Soph:
-Ejim
-Godfrey
-White
-McKnight
-Palo (RS)
-Railey

Fresh:
-Cook
-Odunsi

 

[vortex]

Where do people get the "previous coach had plenty of talent", stuff? I emphatically disagree with that statement.

There was a lot of talent, there were problems keeping players. There were problems with team chemistry. There were problems with certain players giving 100% effort on the floor. I believe at least two of those players were high draft choices. How can you say there wasn't talent on those teams?

 

[CycloneErik]

There was a lot of talent, there were problems keeping players. There were problems with team chemistry. There were problems with certain players giving 100% effort on the floor. I believe at least two of those players were high draft choices. How can you say there wasn't talent on those teams?

Just because everyone who could leave did (and Dendy, too) doesn't indicate chemistry problems between players and coaches

 

[FarmerClone]

Great Get!

Go Clones!

 

[Rural]

There was a lot of talent, there were problems keeping players. There were problems with team chemistry. There were problems with certain players giving 100% effort on the floor. I believe at least two of those players were high draft choices. How can you say there wasn't talent on those teams?

I disagree with the use of the word "plenty". Mac was coach for 4 years and never once had enough talent. Obviously, there was some talent. We played the national champs on a neutral floor. In any way, shape or form did it look like we belonged?

 

[Frak]

2011:

Senior:
-Christopherson
-Allen
-Phillips

Junior:
-Babb
-Booker

Soph:
-Ejim
-Godfrey
-White
-McKnight
-Palo (RS)
-Railey

Fresh:
-Cook
-Odunsi

So it looks to me like all they need is a PG for the 2011 class. Can Phillips or Allen really play PG? I might think real hard about going after a JUCO PG in that class and then focus on Paige, Staten, Woodbury and Gessell. If FH can somehow snag three of those four in 2012, he's on his way to dominating.

 

[Rural]

The kid from Ontario, mentioned in another thread, might be a good option.

 

[Cydkar]

So it looks to me like all they need is a PG for the 2011 class. Can Phillips or Allen really play PG? I might think real hard about going after a JUCO PG in that class and then focus on Paige, Staten, Woodbury and Gessell. If FH can somehow snag three of those four in 2012, he's on his way to dominating.

I agree 100%. A PG away.

 

[isucyfan]

How easy of a sell will it be luring a good PG for 2011?

"Hey, anyone want to come feed Royce White for dunks and Chris Allen for threes?"

A PG would be the final piece to a pretty good puzzle.

 

[JUKEBOX]

How easy of a sell will it be luring a good PG for 2011?

"Hey, anyone want to come feed Royce White for dunks and Chris Allen for threes?"

A PG would be the final piece to a pretty good puzzle.

Ky Madden - Yahoo! Sports

Maybe?

 

[Clone5]

So it looks to me like all they need is a PG for the 2011 class. Can Phillips or Allen really play PG? I might think real hard about going after a JUCO PG in that class and then focus on Paige, Staten, Woodbury and Gessell. If FH can somehow snag three of those four in 2012, he's on his way to dominating.

I doubt we get three out of those four. I'm guessing we get EITHER Paige or Staten and have a very outside shot at Woodbury and Gesell.
We really need to lock Otzleberger up long term. He's doing one of the best recruiting jobs in the country right now.

 

[jamestaylor]

It's unfortunate that in today's NCAA, if a kid’s world is not absolutely perfect (in their mind), they run from the problem rather than deal with it. Makes you wonder if it is the first signs of our society’s change in our early education program (no longer give kids grades – everybody passes; can’t keep score, everybody has to win; if you do not like something, have mom or dad complain on your behalf).

Personally I wonder how that generation is going to survive in the real world when mom or dad or AAU coach are not there for them during their first job interview or first job evaluation. The bottom line is life is not a video game, you can’t just hit reset if you do not like your initial score.

 

[JP4CY]

It's unfortunate that in today's NCAA, if a kid’s world is not absolutely perfect (in their mind), they run from the problem rather than deal with it. Makes you wonder if it is the first signs of our society’s change in our early education program (no longer give kids grades – everybody passes; can’t keep score, everybody has to win; if you do not like something, have mom or dad complain on your behalf).

Personally I wonder how that generation is going to survive in the real world when mom or dad or AAU coach are not there for them during their first job interview or first job evaluation. The bottom line is life is not a video game, you can’t just hit reset if you do not like your initial score.

uuuhhh what? I wish I could rewind time and not have attempted to read that.

 

[Clones21]

Welcome Chirs!

 

[vmbplayer]

uuuhhh what? I wish I could rewind time and not have attempted to read that.

It's a reference to JPs comments about the unfortunate trend of transfers out of our men's basketball program. JP blamed the generation, parents, etc.

Now we're on the other side of the equation, seemingly due to one thing.

 

[jamestaylor]

uuuhhh what? I wish I could rewind time and not have attempted to read that.

its Jamie Pollards quote when dudes were transferring from here.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Absolutely awesome. Freddie has done everything right. It's still going to take a bit to get his program in place, but he's off to a fantastic start!!!

 

[jahfg]

It's unfortunate that in today's NCAA, if a kid’s world is not absolutely perfect (in their mind), they run from the problem rather than deal with it. Makes you wonder if it is the first signs of our society’s change in our early education program (no longer give kids grades – everybody passes; can’t keep score, everybody has to win; if you do not like something, have mom or dad complain on your behalf).

Personally I wonder how that generation is going to survive in the real world when mom or dad or AAU coach are not there for them during their first job interview or first job evaluation. The bottom line is life is not a video game, you can’t just hit reset if you do not like your initial score.

The amount of transfers in college basketball is discouraging and a horrible trend. That doesn't mean ISU shouldn't play the game, too.

 

[Stumpy]

I disagree with the use of the word "plenty". Mac was coach for 4 years and never once had enough talent. Obviously, there was some talent. We played the national champs on a neutral floor. In any way, shape or form did it look like we belonged?

Depends how you measure talent. In the Duke game it was fairly obvious that we had the better athletes and natural ability. Duke blew us open because they played a smarter game and worked better as a unit.

 

[Rural]

I hate Duke, but in order:
(1) we did not have better athletes
(2) we did not have more natural ability
(3) they had a much better coach

You're right about the smarter game and working better as a unit thing.