Briles sues Baylor - Bring on the Conflagration

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http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...briles-sues-baylor-officials-libel-conspiracy

AUSTIN, Texas -- Former Baylor football coach Art Briles sued three school regents and a vice president for libel and slander Thursday, accusing them of falsely stating he knew of reported assaults and alleged gang rapes by players and didn't report them.

The lawsuit also asserts that Baylor officials conspired to damage his reputation and keep him from getting another coaching job. It also seeks damages for emotional distress and likely ending his career as a coach "on any level."

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How do you prove or disprove someone knew something? Assuming no written records..
It makes it more challenging, but they'll probably call witnesses to say that he knew. Plus since he's suing them for libel and slander I think that means that he has to show that they knew what they were saying was false or they were reckless in not finding out whether what they were saying was true. So what Baylor's attorney's will probably do is call witness to say that they told him there were these problems, and that he never reported them. They don't have to show that what they said was true, just that they didn't know it was false or recklessly ignored whether it was false.

Honestly, I think it'll settle or get thrown out. Just speaking from my gut I think Baylor would win, but law suits are expensive and they probably don't want testimony from him to come out. They'll probably try to get it thrown out early and if they can't, they'll settle this. Only about 4% of cases go to trial and I really don't think this will be one of them
 

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Briles and company try to make this sound like Baylor's sole intent was to harm Briles. They might be covering their own ass but the motivation was not to somehow spite Briles. Man, do those big donor guys sound like a bunch of sleazy good ole boys. Nice. And the Briles camp crying "And those dirty rapists are getting away with it while our po-boy is being persecuted!" Oh, my. **** Baylor and Briles. Let them all burn.
 

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Spooky. Briles really is hedging his bets (and sliver of a career possibility) in this case. Only two ways he wins in the end:

1) settlement, goes home. Probably no career still

2) this case forces Baylor officials to release the full PH report in order to prove Briles had involvement (thus absolving them of libel and such).
 

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What's the chances of him settling for $1 or some low amount just to try to make it look like a win to try to help his character?
 

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What's the chances of him settling for $1 or some low amount just to try to make it look like a win to try to help his character?
Probably pretty low, because at that point you could just have Baylor issue a statement apologizing as part of the settlement. And he's probably right that he won't be able to work in coaching for a while/if at all. I think that's more due to his fuckup than Baylor, but he'll want compensation for that.
 

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Briles sucks and Baylor handled the whole thing very poorly. There is definitely faults on both sides here.
 

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Briles is a piece of work.

I see where he is coming from on this lawsuit. He was fired without ever getting to see the report that was used to fire him. Baylor has refused to let anyone see that report so the only way to force their hand is through the courts.
 

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It makes it more challenging, but they'll probably call witnesses to say that he knew. Plus since he's suing them for libel and slander I think that means that he has to show that they knew what they were saying was false or they were reckless in not finding out whether what they were saying was true. So what Baylor's attorney's will probably do is call witness to say that they told him there were these problems, and that he never reported them. They don't have to show that what they said was true, just that they didn't know it was false or recklessly ignored whether it was false.

Honestly, I think it'll settle or get thrown out. Just speaking from my gut I think Baylor would win, but law suits are expensive and they probably don't want testimony from him to come out. They'll probably try to get it thrown out early and if they can't, they'll settle this. Only about 4% of cases go to trial and I really don't think this will be one of them

I think you are right. Baylor would probably win, but they do not want this dragging out or going to court as it keeps their program front and center with a huge scandal. With that said, I hope it drags out.
 

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Everyone involved is at fault here, no questions there. But so far this sounds to me that the top brass at the university have been protecting the football program and swept things under the rug. There are two outcomes and each outcome will have a different meaning.

1. If Baylor settles with Briles, it means that the top brass knew about this stuff, but was protecting the football program and tired to sweep everything under the rug.

2. If this suit fallows through, then I think Briles is the one at fault here and didn't notify the people he needed too. If Baylor is comfortable with going through with this suit, it shows that Briles was protecting his own players and the teams success.
 

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Everyone involved is at fault here, no questions there. But so far this sounds to me that the top brass at the university have been protecting the football program and swept things under the rug. There are two outcomes and each outcome will have a different meaning.

1. If Baylor settles with Briles, it means that the top brass knew about this stuff, but was protecting the football program and tired to sweep everything under the rug.

2. If this suit fallows through, then I think Briles is the one at fault here and didn't notify the people he needed too. If Baylor is comfortable with going through with this suit, it shows that Briles was protecting his own players and the teams success.
I don't think you can say that. Sometimes it makes sense to settle the case, even if you did nothing wrong. If you run a business and someone sues you claiming you violated a contract by charging $2,000 more than you should have (you actually did nothing wrong), but going to trial will cost $5,000, you might settle the lawsuit, even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. Baylor is probably at least a little at fault, but if they settle it could just mean that the cost of going to trial is more than the cost of settling.
 
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I don't think you can say that. Sometimes it makes sense to settle the case, even if you did nothing wrong. If you run a business and someone sues you claiming you violated a contract by charging $2,000 more than you should have (you actually did nothing wrong), but going to trial will cost $5,000, you might settle the lawsuit, even though you did absolutely nothing wrong. Baylor is probably at least a little at fault, but if they settle it could just mean that the cost of going to trial is more than the cost of settling.
This is very true. A settlement is not an admission of guilt or even admission of a weak case. If the settlement is less than the cost of litigation many settle - too many in my book. Too often the indirect costs of settling are not factored in. I have had to fight my employer's habit of settling case after case and our attorneys repeatedly recommending settlements. When I finally refused to accept settling as an answer it was a painful process but the nuisance claims and suits came to an end.
 
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