CycloneErik
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I would prefer to disagree with the Hawks in the thread, but we do have a pretty good track record of hyping guys.
Ben Brust
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Oh, I see, so pro forma whining that has absolutely nothing to do with the merits (or lack thereof) of the player referred to.
Except that the subject isn't hyping guys. That's diverting and derailing the issue of whether Brust is actally a quality signee or not.
Exactly. Southern hit the nail on the head earlier, and the rest of the Clones in this thread haven't disappointed. If this kid was going to ISU, the opinions of him here would be a complete 180.
Maybe I should have added a
Nobody knows if he is or not, time will tell. Thats they way it with every recruit for both schools, but that doesn't stop Cyclone fans from panning every kid who commits to Iowa, or from slapping an all-American tag on a player of the same caliber who commits to ISU.
OK, I'll go on record and say it then.
I think Brust is a quality signee. I am excited to see him in a Hawkeye uniform.
C'mon, my Hawk brethren...every school does it.
I remember reading about how good JR Angle was going to be.
I remember reading about how good JR Angle was going to be.
So am I. I hope that he starts every game of his career--well, at least those against ISU.
CycloneErik
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You have to understand, though, that all of our signees are under-the-radar All-Americans, but they don't always fulfill their promise because JP sabotages them as part of his commitment to mediocrity and false hope.
That one hurt my head.:wideeyed:
And this is how it ought to be. People should be excited for the guys that their program recruits (unless it's women's sports, since they shouldn't be recruiting guys to play). I don't know much about this kid, but I don't see any reason to tear the Hawk fans apart on this one if we don't want to eat it back in return.
I was surprised Angle didn't get drafted
I was going to pull some fan quotes about JR Angle as a recruit to prove my point about how recruits are hyped everywhere, but the search function on both the "major" Hawk sites completely suck. Really suck.
But I did find this Angle quote, which made me laugh:
I think you are misinterpreting what Mac meant.
It wasn't that Mac was recruiting lower level players by choice...and passing on higher level recruits. He was getting what he could and getting the best he could.
What you could take from his statement is that YOU HAVE TO RECRUIT top level talent if you want to consistently compete in the league.
I follow basketball recruiting pretty closely...I'm not saying I'm an expert but I've never even heard of this kid. Seriously, almost every hawk fan I know is complaining about these recruits but the die hards on a CYCLONE message board seem to love them.
And to tie that into the relevancy of the thread I think Lick may have missed any chance he had at getting better recruits.
I think for most new coaches you have a short window to establish yourself and make your program attractive to potential recruits. I think the recent exodus of players from his program may have been the nail in the coffin over there.
I think for most new coaches you have a short window to establish yourself and make your program attractive to potential recruits. I think the recent exodus of players from his program may have been the nail in the coffin over there.
Nobody would ever call the guys that Bo Ryan gets to come to Wisconsin "top talent."
You don't necessarily have to have top talent to win.
I agree, but Wisky always seems to have one or two electric, athletic players to go with the "solid" guys like Brust may end up being. That is the difference right now between Wisky and Iowa...Lickliter is not yet getting that kind of player. He might, but time will tell.
I know nothing about this guy, but if ISU has just landed a guy that was not rated, I would at least be questioning why Mac took them. If the Hawk fans like him, that is fine for them. Lickliter is looking for guys that fit his system.
Bo Ryan has signed five 4* players in the past three years. He has signed a couple 5 star players in Butch and Krabbenhoft. So you are incorrect with that statement.
I do somewhat agree with your second sentence though.
Brust will only be a bad sign at Iowa if he is their best recruit in that class. If he is their best recruit they are going to have problems. If they get some other solid recruits around him than I think he will be alright
