Bad Bad Bad News... 6 Big 12 Teams Potentially to Pac Ten
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What are you smoking and where can I get some?
SMU averaged 21,347 people at their home games.
Highest home attendence: 34,749 (Stephen F. Austin, season opener)
Lowest home attendence: 13,626 (East Carolina)
TCU averaged 38,187 people at their home games.
Highest home attendence: 50,307 (#16 Utah)
Lowest home attendence: 31,156 (Colorado State)
For comparison, A&M averaged 76,800, Texas averaged 101,169.
Baylor, SMU, and TCU are afterthoughts in this state. Saying that TCU and SMU would "deliver" the Texas market is like saying that UNI could "deliver" the Iowa market, CMU and Western Michigan could deliver Michigan or LA Tech could deliver Louisiana.
By this logic, the conference to replace the Big XII should be:
ISU
KSU
KU
Baylor
SMU
TCU
Fresno St.
San Jose St.
San Diego St.
Florida Atlantic
Florida International
Western Michigan
Central Michigan
Buffalo
Miami (OH)
Northern Illinois
ISU delivers Iowa, KU and KSU delivers Kansas/KC, Baylor/SMU/TCU delivers the Texas market, Fresno, SDSU and San Jose deliver California, FAU and FIU bring Florida, WMU and CMU take the Michigan market, Buffalo locks up New York, Miami handles Ohio, and NIU carries Illinois.
That's every major TV market. We could rule College FB!!!
Clearly, you don't "get" what this is all about. It is about geographic footprint and expanded exposure which can lead to increased television revenues...which have become the mother's milk of college athletics.
This is not about average attendance or current athletic department budgets...and, no, it is not even about how big a university's research budget is. It is about marketing, television and exposure.
You have no argument from me at all that if you go into the Texas market you want to partner with UT and A&M because they currently draw the greatest interest...but if you end up partnering with schools currently further down the pecking order in Texas you still have accessed the market and you will increase your television viewing area and increase your exposure.
With your thought process, the current Big 12 could say they don't really have access to the Iowa market...after all, as we are painfully aware, Iowa has better attendance, a bigger budget, more research money, and gets more press coverage than ISU in the state.
Just curious... what's the longest thread ever on CF? This has to be getting up there. I'd venture that one of the Chiz meltdowns would be longer... maybe? Anyway to find out?
Longest thread was several thousands of posts long (thinking of several "FTG" threads). This thread hasn't even scratched that surface.
Thanks! I actually just looked in the Archive and "These are a Few of My Favorite Things" wins with 5,347 posts.
Top 5:
5347
1014
985
630
618
Ok, now back to the topic
LOUD NOISES!
Alright maybe I'm dumb but it says "But the Big 12 is plum immature. Colorado is perfectly indifferent to the concept of success. Missouri has an entitlement complex. Hell if I know all the sordid details at Kansas, but it sorely needs a come-to-Jesus moment. A&M is swimming in the red. Iowa State chugs along like a Yugo. Texas has a ton of irons in the fire; one day, UT will get burned."
What's a Yugo? I did a wiki search and the only thing that kind of makes sense is a midget submarine. Yes?
I think they may have deleted some to make the database smaller... there were a couple i thought got near 10,000
Does anyone know if ISU or the remaining schools are entitled any money legally if this thing goes down?
Poorly made car from Yugoslavia, it's become shorthand for any crappy product. But hey, check out the sweet Cardinal & Gold Yugo in this pic! Think I just found my new tailgating ride!
Poorly made car from Yugoslavia, it's become shorthand for any crappy product. But hey, check out the sweet Cardinal & Gold Yugo in this pic! Think I just found my new tailgating ride!
All that needs is some flame graphics and probably a sweet fin on top.
A Yugo was a compact car imported from the former Yugoslavia, hence its name. The car was a total piece of crap. Made the Pontiac LeMans (AKA the Pontiac Lemon) of the 70's look like a reliable vehicle.
College FB Live on ESPN discussed this at length last night. They seem to believe this scenario of MU and MU to the Big 10 and the rest of the Big 12 to the Pac 10 sans ISU, KU, K-St, and Baylor.
What was interesting (and somewhat depressing) is that they had "experts" from the schools not, apparently, being invited to the Pac 10 on...someone from MU, someone from NU, and someone from KU. ISU, K-St, and Baylor were not even given consideration on the show when discussing what would happen to those not invited to the Pac 10.
What was interesting (and somewhat depressing) is that they had "experts" from the schools not, apparently, being invited to the Pac 10 on...someone from MU, someone from NU, and someone from KU. ISU, K-St, and Baylor were not even given consideration on the show when discussing what would happen to those not invited to the Pac 10.
Hanging out in Oklahoma for a bit, and the sports news cornered the OU AD. Castiglione denied any talk of moving to the PAC10, but did make some CYA about looking out for the university and whatnot.
Sounds like the OK schools are just along for whatever ride Texas/NU/MU decide.
Sounds like the OK schools are just along for whatever ride Texas/NU/MU decide.
From what I see it (As an outsider Texas student looking in), there's only one possible outcome that leaves you guys without any BCS hopes, if all 6 accept and go to the Pac 10, NU and MU go to the Big 10, and the MWC invites Boise State, KU and KSU to go to 12 teams...leaving you and Baylor out to dry.
However, I think the most likely happening is the Big 10 expanding to 16 after this, and inviting you guys. Just IMO, of course.
However, I think the most likely happening is the Big 10 expanding to 16 after this, and inviting you guys. Just IMO, of course.
Where the heck else would they go in the Pac 16 and Big 16 scenario??? :wideeyed:
