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EarthIsMan

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Yeah, but their offensive rebounding rate isn't anything like Baylor. That's what really gives this team fits.
They don't offensive rebound all that well but they don't let you have any.
Strong, physical teams which hit the offensive glass hard give us problems. I really hope we stay out of foul trouble; if we do, I like our chances as our offense is really something special to behold. We need a little luck and hopefully we continue to box out really well on defense.
To get a true look you would need to factor percentage of rebounds (but I don't think they are a dominant offensive glass team regardless)
We just have to dictate tempo.
We'll nail em in transition and it's easier to control the tempo with a team like that. Also favors us to make less turnovers which is key.

A public service announcement on controlling tempo and offensive rebounding:

Just wanted to point out that Virginia doesn’t get offensive rebounds by design. It is to control tempo and pretty much negate transition offense. They will always send 3 players back. Iowa States ability to speed up tempo is all based on transition offense. Similar to the great game plan UNI had against ISU in December, Virginia will be sending hardly anyone to the glass so that there is no transition offense. Virginia loves to play half-court defense soooo much to even care about offensive rebounding. All games for Virginia this year have been under 68 or less possessions. Just think about that. This year NO ONE has sped up Virginia this year... their schematic disinterest in offensive rebounding is why.


If ISU gets a lot transition points it probably means we will win. If Virginia get a lot of offensive rebounds ISU will lose. But the way Virginia schemes on offensive rebounds, I wager neither will happen or be a factor in deciding the outcome of the game. Now if we force Virginia into turnovers that could be another story, but again Iowa State is not that type of team either.
 

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A public service announcement on controlling tempo and offensive rebounding:

Just wanted to point out that Virginia doesn’t get offensive rebounds by design. It is to control tempo and pretty much negate transition offense. They will always send 3 players back. Iowa States ability to speed up tempo is all based on transition offense. Similar to the great game plan UNI had against ISU in December, Virginia will be sending hardly anyone to the glass so that there is no transition offense. Virginia loves to play half-court defense soooo much to even care about offensive rebounding. All games for Virginia this year have been under 68 or less possessions. Just think about that. This year NO ONE has sped up Virginia this year... their schematic disinterest in offensive rebounding is why.


If ISU gets a lot transition points it probably means we will win. If Virginia get a lot of offensive rebounds ISU will lose. But the way Virginia schemes on offensive rebounds, I wager neither will happen or be a factor in deciding the outcome of the game. Now if we force Virginia into turnovers that could be another story, but again Iowa State is not that type of team either.


I feel like for awhile, big 12 teams were selling out offensive rebounds against us for the same reason, preventing our transition, but this last season those that had the most success grabbing oRebs had the most success against us.
 

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Interesting from the UVA board:

"[h=1]I think Niang is every bit as dangerous as Ingram though[/h]
"He's not as good going to the basket or pulling up off the dribble as Ingram because he's not as athletic, but he's every bit as good of a spot up shooter as Ingram and has a refined back to the basket game that Ingram lacks."

I hope these dumb rednecks from Virginia from the coaches on down think Georges isn't good at going to the basket.
 

HornacekFan1414

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Interesting from the UVA board:

"I think Niang is every bit as dangerous as Ingram though


"He's not as good going to the basket or pulling up off the dribble as Ingram because he's not as athletic, but he's every bit as good of a spot up shooter as Ingram and has a refined back to the basket game that Ingram lacks."

I hope these dumb rednecks from Virginia from the coaches on down think Georges isn't good at going to the basket.

Geez, "dumb rednecks"? Way to stay classy.....seems like a pretty complimentary post all being said...
 

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Everyone is going to pick Virginia because of one (or more) of the following:

ISU doesn't play defense
Virginia plays good defense
Virginia has quality depth
ISU has no depth
Virginia can score at will against any defense
ISU struggles to score against good defenses.

Essential Virginia will win this game unless they somehow give the game to ISU. Where is my paycheck for this top notch analysis which took me 2 minutes to write.
 
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c.y.c.l.o.n.e.s

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Yeah, just wrong on his ability to take it to the hole, but other than that, a pretty nice post.


Yeah, I didn't see much wrong with that. Plus they were comparing his ability to drive to the basket to Brandon Ingram who may end up being the number 1 pick in the NBA draft. I still think Simmons will go first but Ingram is a lottery pick for sure.
 

WastedTalent

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Everyone is going to pick Virginia because of one (or more) of the following:

ISU doesn't play defense
Virginia plays good defense
Virginia has quality depth
ISU has no depth
Virginia can score at will against any defense
ISU struggles to score against good defenses.

Essential Virginia will win this game unless they somehow give the game to ISU. Where is my paycheck for this top notch analysis which took me 2 minutes to write.

Welp there you have it. Tell Pollard to just keep the team in Ames, no need to waste that travel money.
 

klamath632

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How? Do you think that leaving a place and living elsewhere automatically means you think it sucks? I never once stated my opinion about that part - but thanks for putting words in my mouth.

I also read your words that way. The guy said "they're in Iowa, what else do they have to do?" Your reply was that not everybody stays in the state. Therefore, if you stay in the state, you suck.
 

CYEATHAWK

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I’m from Virginia (born and raised but went to ISU forcollege), so I’ll weigh in on that last part of your comment.Many people consider Virginia to be full ofrednecks and hillbillies.The southern part of the state is very poor, rural, and in a lot of ways, that way.The northern part, however (Arlington andFairfax counties), is one of the wealthiest, highest educated areas in the nation with what many people consider to be the best public schools in the country..With the area being verywealthy, a huge portion of money and tax dollars comes from this area and hadhelped contribute to making UVA one of the top public universities in thenation and a big portion of the student body comes from these areas.For the most part, UVA fans aren’t redneck’s,they’re just fairweather fans that know nothing about basketball.In fact, most of their fanbase didn’t evenknow they had a basketball program until three years ago when they became a relevantprogram.Take what most of their fanbasesays with a grain of salt because they don't know a whole lot, but because oftheir background and education, they think they’re smarter than everyone else. When it comes to basketball, many (not all) fans don't know much but think they're so smart.
It’s pretty obvious they don’t know much about Niang sayingthat he isn’t good at going to the basket.One of the best parts of his game is his ability to pull a big forwardout to the perimeter and will use his footwork and dribbling skills to runright by you.The biggest problem is ifyou then double team him or smother him he is a tremendous passer as well. Let them think they want about him because they will be surprised when they learn Niang can do a lot more than they think.
:err:
 

Dandy

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Everyone is going to pick Virginia because of one (or more) of the following:

ISU doesn't play defense
Virginia plays good defense
Virginia has quality depth
ISU has no depth
Virginia can score at will against any defense
ISU struggles to score against good defenses.

Essential Virginia will win this game unless they somehow give the game to ISU. Where is my paycheck for this top notch analysis which took me 2 minutes to write.

70.4 PPG which is good for 247th in the country.
 

Mtowncyclone13

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A public service announcement on controlling tempo and offensive rebounding:

Just wanted to point out that Virginia doesn’t get offensive rebounds by design. It is to control tempo and pretty much negate transition offense. They will always send 3 players back. Iowa States ability to speed up tempo is all based on transition offense. Similar to the great game plan UNI had against ISU in December, Virginia will be sending hardly anyone to the glass so that there is no transition offense. Virginia loves to play half-court defense soooo much to even care about offensive rebounding. All games for Virginia this year have been under 68 or less possessions. Just think about that. This year NO ONE has sped up Virginia this year... their schematic disinterest in offensive rebounding is why.


If ISU gets a lot transition points it probably means we will win. If Virginia get a lot of offensive rebounds ISU will lose. But the way Virginia schemes on offensive rebounds, I wager neither will happen or be a factor in deciding the outcome of the game. Now if we force Virginia into turnovers that could be another story, but again Iowa State is not that type of team either.

We don't get O rebounds either - so why is there such a difference in D ability? Wouldn't we benefit form the same results of having our guys set for D?
 

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70.4 PPG which is good for 247th in the country.

They play extremely slow, but very efficiently. The score less because they have less possessions per game. KenPom has Virginia as the 6th best offense, while ISU is 3rd. Virginia is also 4th on D, while ISU is way way down the list.

ISU can win, but they have to win by getting Virginia out of their slow it down game. Force turnovers into transition baskets, and we need to be extremely efficient on offense.
 

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