*** Official #17 IOWA STATE vs Kansas Game(Day) Thread ***

[clonedude]

CW after the game predictably didn't question the coaching at all. It's all due to injuries.

 

[CycloneSpinning]

Being happy with 6-7 wins is certainly a valid philosophy. But there is no impetus for improvement with this program. If there was, we wouldn’t see the same stubborn bad decisions repeated endlessly. If you’re happy with what you see then you’ll be happy for a long time, but you’ll also never see anything truly special.

I think starting 7-0 actually is special by our historical standards. I don’t disagree that losing two in a row is disappointing, and there certainly have been some coaching errors, but being thin at linebacker really probably is a lot of this.

 

[PFlatts]

CW after the game predictably didn't question the coaching at all. It's all due to injuries.

Pumps sunshine like no one else....he's to much of a buddy with the coaching staff

 

[Lineup]

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Campbell just setting back and counting his money

Might be dumb but true

 

[NY Chicago Fan]

Linebackers caught up with us today.

I am sure did not help, but entire D was bad. Secondary gave up big plays and D line no pressure. 31 in first half sunk ISU

 

[CycloneSpinning]

Rates of making bowl games are a terr8ble measure of success, as they environment around bowl games has changed a ton over time.

Well, that’s probably fair, but by pretty much any measure related to winning, he’s the best we’ve had.

 

[enisthemenace]

I expected what I saw tonight.

And you’re “ok” with it?

 

[LAClone]

I think starting 7-0 actually is special by our historical standards. I don’t disagree that losing two in a row is disappointing, and there certainly have been some coaching errors, but being thin at linebacker really probably is a lot of this.

At this level, for the amount of $$ ISU is shelling out, there shouldn’t be coaching errors.

 

[cycloneevan]

3 down lineman is not cutting it anymore

 

[sunset]

I think starting 7-0 actually is special by our historical standards. I don’t disagree that losing two in a row is disappointing, and there certainly have been some coaching errors, but being thin at linebacker really probably is a lot of this.

Stop with the “historical standards” nonsense. If you are basing your expectations off a winless season over 30 years ago then you are doing this wrong.

 

[alarson]

I’m still not willing to pile on Campbell. He’s our best coach ever. We only have two losing records under him. Seeing that we almost never went to a bowl game before he came, he’s been an enormous success.

Don't get me wrong, I am not on the 'fire campbell' train by any means when I say this.

But part of this is because ISU has tended to take a lot longer to make coaching moves compared to other places that will roll the dice more quickly. This often leaves the next coach in a deeper hole.

 

[CycloneSpinning]

At this level, for the amount of $$ ISU is shelling out, there shouldn’t be coaching errors.

I assume you’ve looked at our budget and football salaries compared to other teams, right? I suppose we could try to turn coaching over to AI though. Would at least be an interesting experiment for a tech school…

 

[madguy30]

CW after the game predictably didn't question the coaching at all. It's all due to injuries.

What, with the players/talent available, should they be doing?

Do you think ISU is more talented than the teams they're playing?

 

[isufbcurt]

Hey Mouse!!! We have this guy named Carsen Hansen, he gets 5 yards a carry and scores TDs. How about not taking him out of the game for a quarter at at time.

It's really not that hard!!

 

[Carnegie]

Defense giving up pass plays of
70 yards
32 yards
22 yards
24 yards
62 yards

On various TD drives cost us as much of what you listed. 200 yards of passing chunk plays

You don't give up those chunk plays and expect to win

Exactly. And. You can't give a good QB 5-8 sec to throw. This 3 man rush has proven to be limited against good QB's. ie: Oklahoma in the past.

 

[CycloneSpinning]

Don't get me wrong, I am not on the 'fire campbell' train by any means when I say this.

But part of this is because ISU has tended to take a lot longer to make coaching moves compared to other places that will roll the dice more quickly. This often leaves the next coach in a deeper hole.

Yes, I agree with that. We have not historically prioritized winning…and the budget showed that.

 

[madguy30]

3 down lineman is not cutting it anymore

How did it go in the first 7 games?

4 wouldn't have done much tonight. Given up even more space on the back end I guess.

 

[cyclonestunners]

I think starting 7-0 actually is special by our historical standards. I don’t disagree that losing two in a row is disappointing, and there certainly have been some coaching errors, but being thin at linebacker really probably is a lot of this.

Yeah. I think any of us at the start of the year would have taken a 7-2 start on a heartbeat. Its just harder because of the hope at 7-0

 

[BryceC]

I expected what I saw tonight.

I mean this sincerely then yeah, you wouldn’t be upset. I haven’t expected what I saw tonight since late stage Paul Rhoads.

 

[madguy30]

Hey Mouse!!! We have this guy named Carsen Hansen, he gets 5 yards a carry and scores TDs. How about not taking him out of the game for a quarter at at time.

It's really not that hard!!

Word's been he's dinged up on a snap limit.