Kansas State fans are madder than I have ever seen

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I think it's been mentioned like 9 times, but he's not stepping on his foot, maybe still a foul though especially given how the game was called.

You aren’t great at interpreting 3D space, yet you get oddly amped up about being the greatest authority on it. As someone who professionally 3D sculpts human anatomy it’s entirely possible the foot is on top of the other foot. Just trust me, that’s not definitive proof his foot didn’t get stepped on…why it matters so much is weird.
 

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You aren’t great at interpreting 3D space, yet you get oddly amped up about being the greatest authority on it. As someone who professionally 3D sculpts human anatomy it’s entirely possible the foot is on top of the other foot. Just trust me, that’s not definitive proof his foot didn’t get stepped on…why it matters so much is weird.
Or you could just watch the video where neither foot gets stepped on, good luck with your 3d sculpting though, sounds like a neat little hobby.
 

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Still wondering what Tang actually thought the refs were supposed to do with his paranoid accusations.
 

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Not exactly sure.
I've lived all over the nation, all with something that makes it uniquely beautiful. Nowhere is better than anywhere else. At least not in a sweeping fashion. Ames is beautiful in its own way. And, above most it's the people that define its beauty. I traveled to every Big8 (yes. that old) school during college. Everywhere, again, had something truly wonderful about it.
When I played at other schools, I was the one reaching down to pick the opponent up off the ground. If nothing else, a show of respect and good sportsmanship.
I watched the replay yesterday. I'm truly confounded how people can get so worked up over trivial matters. While I laughed at the people behind the bench when he got the "T", at the same time I was truly embarrassed how adults could behave so childishly. I guess I was just raised in an era with a little more respect and cordiality.
You must be from the 1800’s then.
 

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This video is just so funny to me. I love the holier than thou comment section. KSU fans are some of the whiniest, softest, most delusional fans I’ve seen.


This was a fair take from what I assume is K-States version of CW. I could easily see CW and company making similar statements if roles were reversed.
 

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This whole thing is insane haha. K-State fans have completely lost it. I really hope that this whole thing is over the dance team coach filming the dance routine. That would take this from funny to downright hilarious. They are such losers

They look like fools thinking there were racial slurs, stuff thrown at them AND spying. I’m not buying any of it until there’s evidence or at least a statement but there’s just no way that all happened. I think they are going to implode under Pooty Tang some year and it’s gonna be great.
 

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I've lived all over the nation, all with something that makes it uniquely beautiful. Nowhere is better than anywhere else. At least not in a sweeping fashion. Ames is beautiful in its own way. And, above most it's the people that define its beauty. I traveled to every Big8 (yes. that old) school during college. Everywhere, again, had something truly wonderful about it.
When I played at other schools, I was the one reaching down to pick the opponent up off the ground. If nothing else, a show of respect and good sportsmanship.
I watched the replay yesterday. I'm truly confounded how people can get so worked up over trivial matters. While I laughed at the people behind the bench when he got the "T", at the same time I was truly embarrassed how adults could behave so childishly. I guess I was just raised in an era with a little more respect and cordiality.
Same. Those fans are embarrassing. Here’s the truly sobering realization. Those are our donor class.
 

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Well, someone finally figured out the secret sauce behind Hilton Magic. It was a good run.
It was a lot tougher back in the '70s and '80s before cell phones when they had to set up huge television cameras or take a **** load of polaroids and shake them like crazy so they would develop in time.
 
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Ames is prettttyyy country. There's a segment of ISU fans and alums that I've always seen want to deny or distance themselves from it, but in my time it was definitely that way, and what I can see when I visit nowadays you still get plenty of that vibe.

I'm not one that sees that as a bad thing though, either. I grew up on a farm 3 miles from a town of 15-20 people and 4 miles from a town of maybe 120 people.
You are not wrong, but neither is OP. I go to a week long conference in Manhattan every year for work, and I lived in Ames for 4 years pretty recently, plus also school.

Manhattan is noticeably more country. But you'd probably have to be very familiar with the nuances of "flyover" country to notice.

I'd almost guarantee someone from the coasts or major urban areas would not be able to distinguish "KSU world" from "ISU world" whatsoever. And that's ok!
 

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I listened to the game recap on Heartland College Sport's KState podcast this morning. Couldn't believe Mundo is paying that guy to record what was the biggest butthurt whining 17 minutes I've ever heard. He spent the first 14 minutes saying that the refs were absolutely atrocious and unfair and the whole system needs blown up because college MBB is so unwatchable, then called ISU fans racists then closed by once again reminding everyone that the game was fundamentally unfair and stupid. spent all of 0:00 actually recapping the game or giving any sort of insight or analysis.
 
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You are not wrong, but neither is OP. I go to a week long conference in Manhattan every year for work, and I lived in Ames for 4 years pretty recently, plus also school.

Manhattan is noticeably more country. But you'd probably have to be very familiar with the nuances of "flyover" country to notice.

I'd almost guarantee someone from the coasts or major urban areas would not be able to distinguish KSU world form ISU world whatsoever.
That's what I'm trying to get at. I agree it's a little stronger at KSU. They seem to have fewer KC area kids than ISU has DSM area kids, and it's just farther away from the nearest city.

But like you said, you have to really understand the nuances of flyover country to get that.
 

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This was a fair take from what I assume is K-States version of CW. I could easily see CW and company making similar statements if roles were reversed.
Agreed. But the whole accusation is strange.

1) How could these "two guys" (you could see Tang say "two guys" to Otz during the post game handshake) get any audio? There is no way they would be able to hear anything being discussed unless they were inside the huddle

2) How does Tang know they were recording them and not the media timeout entertainment?

3) TV crews will be inside the huddle every so often, and even broadcast some of the coach's talk to the players. I've seen this happen with Otz in earlier games this season where Otz is telling his players something along the lines of "we have to keep attacking the paint". The crews are only able to pick up audio because they were right next to Otz

4) How would Tang even know if these two guys were giving the ISU any info? Did Tang somehow see texts?

This whole accusation is preposterous
 
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That's what I'm trying to get at. I agree it's a little stronger at KSU. They seem to have fewer KC area kids than ISU has DSM area kids, and it's just farther away from the nearest city.

But like you said, you have to really understand the nuances of flyover country to get that.
Anecdotal I know but I know two KSU people: an alum who lived in KC area, Iowa and rural Kansas growing up; and a KSU freshman who grew up in suburban KC - she listens to country music but has never spent a night on a farm in her life.
 

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Reading KSU boards, I was able to find a level-headed reaction that makes me think not all K-State fans are whiny lunatics. This is copied from their premium board but does not contain any premium/insider information. It's not one of their mods either, just a subscriber. I thought the comments were good and should be shared. Mods - delete this if you think it's appropriate to do so. I'm definitely not trying to break any rules here.

The coaches clearly and obviously think something was going on. That’s not at issue, the clear question is why they think that.

Questions - to me seemingly very valid questions - exist as to exactly what that was and how they came to suspect whatever they saw meant that information was being shared in real time with the ISU bench.

I haven’t managed to come up with a plausible-seeming answer to the “how would you even do this if you wanted to” and “how the hell would it be so obvious that you could see it happening in real time while also coaching a major college basketball game” questions yet. If someone else has, i guess I’m willing to hear them for the sake of argument.

I’m definitely not *owed* those answers. The coaches involved are well within their personal or professional rights to “no comment, we’re addressing our concerns thru what we feel are the proper channels and we’re not going to be dragged into weird public fueds with other coaches in the conference” this until it maybe cycles out of the news. They are, and they probably should continue to address it that way.

That being said, the internet has a hold of it now, and it’s seemingly going to be a short term distraction nobody wants or needs, and if it blows up further to the point that other people - the conference, essentially - have to pour water on it, then the actual hows and whys of the thing better actually be more than, “some kid behind the bench was on his phone a bunch and we were having a harder time adjusting to their defense than we thought we should have been”

At the end of the day, i think we can all agree to some extent that our offense has been generally not-great and ISU has a subjectivity very-good defense. There better be anything more substantial to this than weird competitive projection, because - I love this basketball staff - but unless there’s way more evidenciary meat on this bone than is immediately, publicly obvious, it currently *doesn’t not* sound kind of f**king crazy.
 

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I'm not going to pay for a 247 subscription, but am so curious what their "proof" is. Anyone got any examples?
They don't have any proof (probably because it didn't happen). One of their staff clowns made a long post including video of the TV copy about the 8 minute mark of the second half and then circled in a still photo where they think Tang and an Assistant were pointing to the "spies". The pointing is more towards the corner area, 10 rows up maybe, not behind the bench. Pretty nice seats but high enough up I have no idea how a cellphone would get anything helpful audibly or visually.

They also deleted a post from a staff member about the "incorrect" theory ISU had a plant in security/arena uniform that was behind the bench and communicating the ISU staff. That likely occurred because Cyclone Larry screenshotted it and put it on Twitter and they got appropriately ridiculed. I chuckled because THAT post was too crazy but spying accusations in general totally make sense.

A couple of posters are correctly questioning how spying would be feasible given the time constraints and pointing out their staff and fans look batshit crazy without evidence. A few others have mentioned gambling or "that's how ISU covers spreads", and most just blindly believe it.
 
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