**** daylight savings

[Dopey]

Wasn’t there legislation to cancel this at one point recently?

Unsure what impact that would have on how fast the earth spins.

Speedy, please advise.

 

[2speedy1]

I would embrace this. I know the amount of daylight won't change at any point in the year regardless of what the clock says, but this plan removes the abruptness aspect (That's the worst part about it). Not as simple as choosing either ST or DT all the time, but sort of a compromise.

Yeah that would honestly be better, or a monthly or quarterly change etc, I think people would have less of an issue, and adjust better. But I still honestly have never understood people that make such a big deal about the time change. It sucks for about a day or 2 then you are used to it. If not you are just telling yourself you arent, and causing yourself more greef than its worth.

I remember when people thought it was so great that we got the extra hour to drink in the bar and sleep in.

 

[2speedy1]

Wasn’t there legislation to cancel this at one point recently?

People with level heads realized it was worth more investigating than to just pass it without an actual vote or debate, so it never passed into law. The house never took up the Bill.

 

[AirWalke]

People who live further up north like we do need to realize that we have way more daylight during the summer and way less daylight during the winter compared to our southern brethren. Getting rid of daylights savings time or making it permanent will not change that fact.

That said I’m good with making either option permanent and just getting used to the sunrise and sunset changes naturally.

 

[Pope]

those stats have been really manipulated to show what the person that is pushing his agenda wants. What it is even more telling is when you look at the next day it goes completely back to normal, and the fall back day it does the opposite, to negate those stats, but they dont want to tell you that. It is a one day blip that everything goes back to normal a few hours later, and is all but counteracted a year later.

There are a lot of people that magically think changing the time magically makes the daylight change, they have no understanding of how the time works, and daylight works. And the farther north and west you go the worse the shift is. Those in florida have a much less effect of DST than those in Minnesota, etc. Hence those in the southern and eastern parts of their states or time zones see less impact and dont understand the reasoning and why those in the North want to keep the change.

The farther north you go the more impact DST change has. But I guess many of you think it being dark until 9am and still getting dark around 5pm is worth it. Because you think you will get so much more done in the dark when you get home at 530, than when it got dark at 430, and you got home at 530 and it is dark.

Man, I'm not sure I've seen another poster as condescending as you. Not only do you seem to have all the answers, you also dumb the posts of others who have the audacity to express a viewpoint that is different from your own.

 

[mkadl]

I have lived in the same latitude all my life and daylight savings time doesn't mess me up at all. Maybe blame it a day or two. I don t sit for months waiting to change back to whatever is best.

 

[t-noah]

What are we doing with all the daylight we have saved?

LOL

The Lord giveth, and the Lord apparently taketh away.

About 5-6 months later.

 

[FarminCy]

People who live further up north like we do need to realize that we have way more daylight during the summer and way less daylight during the winter compared to our southern brethren. Getting rid of daylights savings time or making it permanent will not change that fact.

That said I’m good with making either option permanent and just getting used to the sunrise and sunset changes naturally.

I’m amazed at how many people dont understand what DST does in the summer. A guy I know rants about how stupid DST is at the switch dates and how it should go away. He also loves that’s its light until 9:30-9:45 in June/early July for boating, fishing, etc. I always remind him without it the sun would rise at 4 am and set at 8:30 pm in June. He always looks confused and doesn’t believe me.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Some of you still struggle to comprehend the length of daylight hours shrinks during the winter months. And the idea behind the shift in time is to align the clock better with the day. As sunrise and sunset change disproportional to what is considered regular day hours.

Just changing or not changing the clock does not add daylight, it simply adjusts the clock to when their is daylight. You still are going have little to no time after 5PM in the winter of daylight because regardless of DST or Not, Because Darkness is going to come basically at 430 or 530, no real gain. Unless you can get a lot done in that half hour of twilight after work or on your drive home. But it does make a big difference when it doesnt get light until after 9am some weeks in the winter, especially for people and kids going to school.

One of the biggest complaints is they say the evening commute is more dangerous because of darkness. But the one our shift does little to change that because it still will be dark most of the evening rush hour. But what it will do is guarantee the morning commute and when kids are going to school is completely dark for at least 2 months.

And yes I know some kids go to school well before 8 am in the country etc. But the vast majority are going to school around 8am.

It has been tried and failed before, because people just cant understand that they lose daylight on one end or the other, regardless of the change or not, and when they tried not changing people hated it not getting daylight until so late. They said it was too dangerous in the morning, and it was too hard to get going in the morning, and was too depressing being dark so far into the day, worse than in the evening.

That would actually be a real gain of one hour. Friendly tip: Don’t do the stonks.

 

[cyclones500]

That said I’m good with making either option permanent and just getting used to the sunrise and sunset changes naturally.

This is my basic view. I probably said the same thing last fall when this thread was launched.

 

[t-noah]

those stats have been really manipulated to show what the person that is pushing his agenda wants. What it is even more telling is when you look at the next day it goes completely back to normal, and the fall back day it does the opposite, to negate those stats, but they dont want to tell you that. It is a one day blip that everything goes back to normal a few hours later, and is all but counteracted a year later.

There are a lot of people that magically think changing the time magically makes the daylight change, they have no understanding of how the time works, and daylight works. And the farther north and west you go the worse the shift is. Those in florida have a much less effect of DST than those in Minnesota, etc. Hence those in the southern and eastern parts of their states or time zones see less impact and dont understand the reasoning and why those in the North want to keep the change.

The farther north you go the more impact DST change has. But I guess many of you think it being dark until 9am and still getting dark around 5pm is worth it. Because you think you will get so much more done in the dark when you get home at 530, than when it got dark at 430, and you got home at 530 and it is dark.

Man, I'm not sure I've seen another poster as condescending as you. Not only do you seem to have all the answers, you also dumb the posts of others who have the audacity to express a viewpoint that is different from your own.

I love you both! LOL

It's been one of those days for me, anxiety.

I keep working on it but never know when I'll be 'normal'.

 

[Cyclonepride]

My dog has steadily been getting up earlier and earlier (he stands up and shakes and wakes up my other two). We went from 5:15 to 4:30 to 4:15, and the last couple days has been 3:45.

Long story short, we’re going to have it out if he’s getting me up at 2:45 lol

 

[cyclones500]

My dog has steadily been getting up earlier and earlier (he stands up and shakes and wakes up my other two). We went from 5:15 to 4:30 to 4:15, and the last couple days has been 3:45.

Long story short, we’re going to have it out if he’s getting me up at 2:45 lol

So, instead of "The Dog Days of Summer," it's "The Dog Days of Fall," then?

 

[drmwevr08]

those stats have been really manipulated to show what the person that is pushing his agenda wants. What it is even more telling is when you look at the next day it goes completely back to normal, and the fall back day it does the opposite, to negate those stats, but they dont want to tell you that. It is a one day blip that everything goes back to normal a few hours later, and is all but counteracted a year later.

There are a lot of people that magically think changing the time magically makes the daylight change, they have no understanding of how the time works, and daylight works. And the farther north and west you go the worse the shift is. Those in florida have a much less effect of DST than those in Minnesota, etc. Hence those in the southern and eastern parts of their states or time zones see less impact and dont understand the reasoning and why those in the North want to keep the change.

The farther north you go the more impact DST change has. But I guess many of you think it being dark until 9am and still getting dark around 5pm is worth it. Because you think you will get so much more done in the dark when you get home at 530, than when it got dark at 430, and you got home at 530 and it is dark.

Maybe YOU don't understand how it works. You can ague when you want the light, AM or PM, but something changes. One or the other has light where it didn't, that much I know.

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

Just move it 30 minutes and call it good.

 

[CoachHines3]

maybe im in the minority here but i couldn't give a rats ass about turning the clocks back or springing them forward

i will say im not looking forward to it messing up my kids sleeping schedule but we'll adapt

 

[iowastatefan1929]

I’m amazed at how many people dont understand what DST does in the summer. A guy I know rants about how stupid DST is at the switch dates and how it should go away. He also loves that’s its light until 9:30-9:45 in June/early July for boating, fishing, etc. I always remind him without it the sun would rise at 4 am and set at 8:30 pm in June. He always looks confused and doesn’t believe me.

Above not the end of the world. If I had a choice I would probably just go with standard time all year.

 

[drmwevr08]

maybe im in the minority here but i couldn't give a rats ass about turning the clocks back or springing them forward

i will say im not looking forward to it messing up my kids sleeping schedule but we'll adapt

SO, it turns out you do care, at least a little.

 

[stateofmind]

Above not the end of the world. If I had a choice I would probably just go with standard time all year.

You apparently don't have to wait until after work to golf.

 

[MushroomPinball]

I'm ok with changing an hour back in the fall and forward in the spring so long as the hour back is a Friday or Saturday night that I am out at the bars and the forward is on a Friday in the afternoon while I'm at work.