**** daylight savings

houjix

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Oh, cool. We get a couple of weeks of safety back in the morning until the sun is in my eyes again. Then it's back to the dark in the morning and dark at afternoon drive.
 

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Some of you still struggle to comprehend the length of daylight hours shrinks during the winter months. And the idea behind the shift in time is to align the clock better with the day. As sunrise and sunset change disproportional to what is considered regular day hours.

Just changing or not changing the clock does not add daylight, it simply adjusts the clock to when their is daylight. You still are going have little to no time after 5PM in the winter of daylight because regardless of DST or Not, Because Darkness is going to come basically at 430 or 530, no real gain. Unless you can get a lot done in that half hour of twilight after work or on your drive home. But it does make a big difference when it doesnt get light until after 9am some weeks in the winter, especially for people and kids going to school.

One of the biggest complaints is they say the evening commute is more dangerous because of darkness. But the one our shift does little to change that because it still will be dark most of the evening rush hour. But what it will do is guarantee the morning commute and when kids are going to school is completely dark for at least 2 months.

And yes I know some kids go to school well before 8 am in the country etc. But the vast majority are going to school around 8am.

It has been tried and failed before, because people just cant understand that they lose daylight on one end or the other, regardless of the change or not, and when they tried not changing people hated it not getting daylight until so late. They said it was too dangerous in the morning, and it was too hard to get going in the morning, and was too depressing being dark so far into the day, worse than in the evening.
 

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DST forever. The Senate did their part here, time for the House to get on with it. Let's finish this thing.

If I ever run for Governor of a Midwestern state my entire platform is going to be free insulin for those over 55, allow up to 3 cannabis plants to be grown in your home at any time and then used in your own home legally, and end the **** out of the time change.
 

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Some of you still struggle to comprehend the length of daylight hours shrinks during the winter months. And the idea behind the shift in time is to align the clock better with the day. As sunrise and sunset change disproportional to what is considered regular day hours.

Just changing or not changing the clock does not add daylight, it simply adjusts the clock to when their is daylight. You still are going have little to no time after 5PM in the winter of daylight because regardless of DST or Not, Because Darkness is going to come basically at 430 or 530, no real gain. Unless you can get a lot done in that half hour of twilight after work or on your drive home. But it does make a big difference when it doesnt get light until after 9am some weeks in the winter, especially for people and kids going to school.

One of the biggest complaints is they say the evening commute is more dangerous because of darkness. But the one our shift does little to change that because it still will be dark most of the evening rush hour. But what it will do is guarantee the morning commute and when kids are going to school is completely dark for at least 2 months.

And yes I know some kids go to school well before 8 am in the country etc. But the vast majority are going to school around 8am.

It has been tried and failed before, because people just cant understand that they lose daylight on one end or the other, regardless of the change or not, and when they tried not changing people hated it not getting daylight until so late. They said it was too dangerous in the morning, and it was too hard to get going in the morning, and was too depressing being dark so far into the day, worse than in the evening.
My kid's school starts at 7:20 so it's dark in the winter on the way to school regardless of DST or standard. I'd much rather take my hour of sunshine later in the day when I can appreciate it rather than wasting it in the morning.
 
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Some of you still struggle to comprehend the length of daylight hours shrinks during the winter months. And the idea behind the shift in time is to align the clock better with the day. As sunrise and sunset change disproportional to what is considered regular day hours.

Just changing or not changing the clock does not add daylight, it simply adjusts the clock to when their is daylight. You still are going have little to no time after 5PM in the winter of daylight because regardless of DST or Not, Because Darkness is going to come basically at 430 or 530, no real gain. Unless you can get a lot done in that half hour of twilight after work or on your drive home. But it does make a big difference when it doesnt get light until after 9am some weeks in the winter, especially for people and kids going to school.

One of the biggest complaints is they say the evening commute is more dangerous because of darkness. But the one our shift does little to change that because it still will be dark most of the evening rush hour. But what it will do is guarantee the morning commute and when kids are going to school is completely dark for at least 2 months.

And yes I know some kids go to school well before 8 am in the country etc. But the vast majority are going to school around 8am.

It has been tried and failed before, because people just cant understand that they lose daylight on one end or the other, regardless of the change or not, and when they tried not changing people hated it not getting daylight until so late. They said it was too dangerous in the morning, and it was too hard to get going in the morning, and was too depressing being dark so far into the day, worse than in the evening.
Suggesting that we don't understand how it works because we do not agree with you is pretty comical. This isn't the politics thread!
 
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Someday in the future, when all clocks are automatic, we need to spring ahead 2 minutes each weekend in the winter and spring and fall back 2 minutes each weekend in the summer and fall.
I would embrace this. I know the amount of daylight won't change at any point in the year regardless of what the clock says, but this plan removes the abruptness aspect (That's the worst part about it). Not as simple as choosing either ST or DT all the time, but sort of a compromise.
 
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Some of you still struggle to comprehend the length of daylight hours shrinks during the winter months. And the idea behind the shift in time is to align the clock better with the day. As sunrise and sunset change disproportional to what is considered regular day hours.

Just changing or not changing the clock does not add daylight, it simply adjusts the clock to when their is daylight. You still are going have little to no time after 5PM in the winter of daylight because regardless of DST or Not, Because Darkness is going to come basically at 430 or 530, no real gain. Unless you can get a lot done in that half hour of twilight after work or on your drive home. But it does make a big difference when it doesnt get light until after 9am some weeks in the winter, especially for people and kids going to school.

One of the biggest complaints is they say the evening commute is more dangerous because of darkness. But the one our shift does little to change that because it still will be dark most of the evening rush hour. But what it will do is guarantee the morning commute and when kids are going to school is completely dark for at least 2 months.

And yes I know some kids go to school well before 8 am in the country etc. But the vast majority are going to school around 8am.

It has been tried and failed before, because people just cant understand that they lose daylight on one end or the other, regardless of the change or not, and when they tried not changing people hated it not getting daylight until so late. They said it was too dangerous in the morning, and it was too hard to get going in the morning, and was too depressing being dark so far into the day, worse than in the evening.
Thank goodness we have someone as wise as you to explain the concept of daylight savings time to us.

As you were explaining to us the benefits, you forgot to mention that when we're all forced to turn our clocks ahead an hour in the spring, the sleep deprivation creates a 24% higher risk of heart attacks, a 6% spike in fatal car accidents, an 8% increase in strokes, and an 11% spike in depressive episodes.

I'd just as soon we leave the clock alone throughout the year and adapt to the shorter daylight period during the winter as we've done for the majority of our history.
 

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Thank goodness we have someone as wise as you to explain the concept of daylight savings time to us.

As you were explaining to us the benefits, you forgot to mention that when we're all forced to turn our clocks ahead an hour in the spring, the sleep deprivation creates a 24% higher risk of heart attacks, a 6% spike in fatal car accidents, an 8% increase in strokes, and an 11% spike in depressive episodes.

I'd just as soon we leave the clock alone throughout the year and adapt to the shorter daylight period during the winter as we've done for the majority of our history.
those stats have been really manipulated to show what the person that is pushing his agenda wants. What it is even more telling is when you look at the next day it goes completely back to normal, and the fall back day it does the opposite, to negate those stats, but they dont want to tell you that. It is a one day blip that everything goes back to normal a few hours later, and is all but counteracted a year later.

There are a lot of people that magically think changing the time magically makes the daylight change, they have no understanding of how the time works, and daylight works. And the farther north and west you go the worse the shift is. Those in florida have a much less effect of DST than those in Minnesota, etc. Hence those in the southern and eastern parts of their states or time zones see less impact and dont understand the reasoning and why those in the North want to keep the change.

The farther north you go the more impact DST change has. But I guess many of you think it being dark until 9am and still getting dark around 5pm is worth it. Because you think you will get so much more done in the dark when you get home at 530, than when it got dark at 430, and you got home at 530 and it is dark.