Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC
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The kid that skipped his senior year at Southlake and went to Ohio State got a million dollar endorsement deal.
The system is a four alarm fire.
The system is a four alarm fire.
I heard someone on TV just the other day say that "we've finally allowed college athletes to make money off their name, image, and likeness..... and all hell hasn't broken loose.... so it was a good decision.".
Wut? They obviously haven't been paying attention. The NIL could literally destroy a LOT of small college towns in this country and negatively affect a lot of people's livelihoods and destroy college football and athletics as we know it. Towns like Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan KS, Stillwater, Lubbock, etc, etc..... are really going to suffer bad from this.
That's what pisses me off so much about people like Paul Finebaum. He's out there all excited about what this all means for his SEC conference..... and he couldn't possibly care less about what this is doing overall to college football and all these small towns that depend on it. He's a POS.
College football is probably the greatest sport there is (my biased opinion of course), and had a great thing going.... but they are going to let excessive greed completely ruin it possibly. But people like Finebaum and ESPN could care less.
Wut? They obviously haven't been paying attention. The NIL could literally destroy a LOT of small college towns in this country and negatively affect a lot of people's livelihoods and destroy college football and athletics as we know it. Towns like Ames, Lawrence, Manhattan KS, Stillwater, Lubbock, etc, etc..... are really going to suffer bad from this.
That's what pisses me off so much about people like Paul Finebaum. He's out there all excited about what this all means for his SEC conference..... and he couldn't possibly care less about what this is doing overall to college football and all these small towns that depend on it. He's a POS.
College football is probably the greatest sport there is (my biased opinion of course), and had a great thing going.... but they are going to let excessive greed completely ruin it possibly. But people like Finebaum and ESPN could care less.
I think it is way too early to know the import of this, if anything ultimately, for ISU.
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I recall Boren’s past comments. I don’t know how Bowlsby and others were supposed to know they were about to be stabbed in the back.
Yes, good ol' Dave Boren going behind the back of the other Big 12 members. And thanks to Feinbaum for providing more ammo for the Remaining 8's future loss lawsuit against OU/UT/ESPN/SEC..."I know for a fact that OU was already violating the Big 12 bylaws 5-6 years ago".
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I think the Alliance knows where Big12 schools would stand on a playoff.
But it also speaks to the long term reality. The Big12 eight will be in the SEC, ACC, BIG10 or Pac12. Or we will be G5 schools.
Until that is worked out. We ARE the 38th parallel. No man's land.
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This idea being pushed by Feinbaum, the SEC, and OUT that the Big 12 should have done more to stop it from occurring is like the defense a husband uses after hitting his wife, "if you hadn't pissed my off, I wouldn't have hit you" BS.
UT is the wealthiest athletic program in the country, they and OU regularly are in the top 10 in recruiting. Both schools and their fan base now are saying that its not enough, that they have to get into the SEC because that is where the future pros play, so they had to do it.
So its the leagues fault that UT and OU cannot stop high school kids from Texas from leaving the state of Texas instead of going to the flagship school of Texas. Forgetting all along that OU has had 2 Heisman winning players in the past 5 years, and still won numerous awards at their schools.
How about the more likely idea is the one that says with all the riches in the world, UT has not won a conference title in over a decade and has under performed on a yearly basis for a number of years now. Is that the fault of the Big 12 also, is it ISU fault that we have defeated UT twice in a row, or is it TCU's fault that they have won 5 out of 7 vs. UT.
How does anyone stop being stabbed in the back by someone you trust, and then you have the gal to say they should have done more and saw it coming?
I will be glad when UT goes to the SEC and then they are that leagues problem,
Greed and Arrogance will be the death of us all.
UT is the wealthiest athletic program in the country, they and OU regularly are in the top 10 in recruiting. Both schools and their fan base now are saying that its not enough, that they have to get into the SEC because that is where the future pros play, so they had to do it.
So its the leagues fault that UT and OU cannot stop high school kids from Texas from leaving the state of Texas instead of going to the flagship school of Texas. Forgetting all along that OU has had 2 Heisman winning players in the past 5 years, and still won numerous awards at their schools.
How about the more likely idea is the one that says with all the riches in the world, UT has not won a conference title in over a decade and has under performed on a yearly basis for a number of years now. Is that the fault of the Big 12 also, is it ISU fault that we have defeated UT twice in a row, or is it TCU's fault that they have won 5 out of 7 vs. UT.
How does anyone stop being stabbed in the back by someone you trust, and then you have the gal to say they should have done more and saw it coming?
I will be glad when UT goes to the SEC and then they are that leagues problem,
Greed and Arrogance will be the death of us all.
IMO conference realignment and NIL are separate issues. Sure both could destroy college football as we know it.
But the chaotic way OU & Texas joined the SEC gives more justification for athletes getting NIL. Sure there will be a few hiccups, but I think college Presidents and AD's are smart enough to create a NIL model that works over the long haul.
KidSilverhair
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Here’s a fun little historical tidbit, and by “fun” I mean “absolutely infuriating.”
Remember the late 1980s, when the major football schools wrested control of their TV contracts away from the NCAA and formed the College Football Alliance? The big schools and big conferences worked together to maximize TV money and exposure for everybody … much like the mythical “everyone should band together against the SEC and ESPN” fables some talk about today.
You know who’s responsible for the end of the CFA? Three letters: S. E. C. The SEC poached Arkansas from the SWC in 1990, helping to cripple that conference, while announcing their plans to leave the CFA and set up their own TV deal (which they did in 1994). As the CFA collapsed without the SEC (and Big East) schools, conferences scrambled to make their own TV deals - which was such a bad situation for the SWC that it folded in 1996.
Who came to the rescue for several SWC schools, including the flagship Texas? Why, the Big 8 stepped up and invited Texas, Texas Tech, and Texas A&M to join (with Texas Gov. Ann Richards insisting Baylor come along for the ride). The new Big XII saved Texas from life as an independent, most likely … and how are they repaid 25 years later? With a giant stab in the back from a Longhorn program that can’t be satisfied with humongous athletic department income if there’s even more humongous income to be had by screwing over the very group that threw them a lifeline in 1996. All the while saying it’s the Big XII’s fault for not being nice enough to them.
The SWC Wikipedia page
Remember the late 1980s, when the major football schools wrested control of their TV contracts away from the NCAA and formed the College Football Alliance? The big schools and big conferences worked together to maximize TV money and exposure for everybody … much like the mythical “everyone should band together against the SEC and ESPN” fables some talk about today.
You know who’s responsible for the end of the CFA? Three letters: S. E. C. The SEC poached Arkansas from the SWC in 1990, helping to cripple that conference, while announcing their plans to leave the CFA and set up their own TV deal (which they did in 1994). As the CFA collapsed without the SEC (and Big East) schools, conferences scrambled to make their own TV deals - which was such a bad situation for the SWC that it folded in 1996.
Who came to the rescue for several SWC schools, including the flagship Texas? Why, the Big 8 stepped up and invited Texas, Texas Tech, and Texas A&M to join (with Texas Gov. Ann Richards insisting Baylor come along for the ride). The new Big XII saved Texas from life as an independent, most likely … and how are they repaid 25 years later? With a giant stab in the back from a Longhorn program that can’t be satisfied with humongous athletic department income if there’s even more humongous income to be had by screwing over the very group that threw them a lifeline in 1996. All the while saying it’s the Big XII’s fault for not being nice enough to them.
The SWC Wikipedia page
Finebaum is an arrogant, know it all. Which is exactly why ESPN employs him. He can EABOD.
He's been totally gloating about this move, and how awesome the SEC will be... and just laughs at the Big 12 and doesn't give a rip if the remaining teams completely die off.
What he is too stupid to understand though.... is that if enough people in this country get ticked off about how college football is going and don't care anymore (and are not willing to pay more $$ for streaming services).... it could put Finebaum out of job too eventually.
This all might be good news for the SEC, but not for the health of college football overall at all.
It’s a trifecta with realignment, NIL *and* transfer portal. There is no CFB governing body and no players “union”. This is going to lead to a disaster for all of college athletics until it gets resolved. Realignment covered extensively here, but NIL with zero oversight and differing state laws is going to be a mess. Add the transfer portal that is open all year-round, that now has more kids in it than scholarships for them. College athletics has a massive problem right now. We can all agree that NIL and transfer portal are good in theory, but the Wild West application of these are going to damage college athletics and student athletes until rules are put in place and/or improved to govern all this in the best interest of student athletes, not just the power brokers and bluebloods.
He’s a know it all who I cannot stand.
I would bet he has never put the pads on or coached at any level.
I agree, but I think NIL is really the driving factor.
OU and TX realize they will need to make even more $$ to compete with other teams going forward to get the best players to come to your school. And it won't only be having great facilities anymore.... it will also be what the kids can make at your school.
Kids won't make squat (relatively speaking) if the school isn't where their fans expect them to be.
I don’t root for anyone to lose their livelihood but you not gonna find me feeling bad about that happening to him if it happened to him. He made that bed.
This is Texas and Oklahoma you are talking about here, not ISU and KSU. They are swimming in money and Texas still cannot make it work. What no rich oil men in either state willing to pump money into NIL for the teams? BS, they were getting out worked and out recruited by the SEC so instead of stepping up their game, they folded and joined the league.
One more reason I hope the other conferences blows up the move to a 12 team playoff, let the SEC beat the hell out of each other and then try to get more than one team in. 9-3 might get you into a 12 team playoff, but it sure won't the current 4 team setup no matter how much the SEC whines about SOS.
