Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC
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The problem is not Paul Finebaum. He works for ESPN and the SEC Network after all.
The problem for us is how college football has developed into a couple of mega conferences, the SEC and B10. The problem is that the NCAA had no organizational control. These were academics playing in a capitalist market. The problem is there was no commissioner to sort through all this to the benefit of the larger game.
And so, we evolved in a market-driven way, not unlike the once-popular local car dealership getting absorbed by the regional or national firm. Today, none of us have a clue how this will turn out. But Paul and his followers will have little to do with it.
The problem for us is how college football has developed into a couple of mega conferences, the SEC and B10. The problem is that the NCAA had no organizational control. These were academics playing in a capitalist market. The problem is there was no commissioner to sort through all this to the benefit of the larger game.
And so, we evolved in a market-driven way, not unlike the once-popular local car dealership getting absorbed by the regional or national firm. Today, none of us have a clue how this will turn out. But Paul and his followers will have little to do with it.
Finebaum is 66 and has more than enough money to retire whenever he wants. By the time any of this COULD take a toll on the overall viewership he will be over 70. He doesn't care, and is called the "Mouth of the South" for a reason. As long as he has that lunatic fanbase in the SEC he will be employed.
I’m not blaming Finebaum for causing this, he doesn’t have that much power, but I certainly can blame him for gloating about watching the demise of all these small town college towns while he pads his pockets.
He’s a total POS.
How do we know this for sure?
Yes the new Big 12 adding Cinnci, UCF, BYU etc...won't have a blue blood but will have more Top 25 teams year in and year out than the PAC will. I can assure you of that.
The bigger ? is does anything happen with the BIG 12 Autonomous status? who decides this or can anyone decide this?
The big 12 is a legal entity with Autonomous status. The legality of the Autonomous status doesnt say "only if Tx and Ou are there"...
Are we going to have the P4....then the big 12....then G5?
Bc that new big 12 is alot closer to the P4 than rest of what the G5 would be. and it wouldn't be close.
I"m not talking about perception...ESPN 24/7 with every media person on twitter will make sure there is a P4 and everyone else..But if the Big 12 remains Autonomous then it will equally share CFP revenue and have a shot at the CFP.
Could not disagree with you more.
If tomorrow ISU accepted an invite to the B1G , I’d still feel bad for KSU and the town of Manhattan as they suffer…. and I’d still hate Paul for laughing in your face while so many people suffer.
But you go ahead cheering on Paul while he puts down the remaining Big 12 schools….. but I won’t.
I know that makes you feel better. So, I'll try never to put K-State in the class of ISU again.
Honorable, but read the "snowcraig2.0" post above yours. It likely represents the casual ISU fan and on my side as well if good fortune were to fall our way. There would be a sigh of relief followed by much chest-thumping (we're not in their low class), and we'd move on with fond memories.
Sorry to tell you, but you guys are definitely in a world of hurt right now. ISU will get an invite to another conference WAY before you do.
Finebaum is not on your side buddy. He doesn’t care if you end up in the MWC and Manhattan dies as a town.
It doesn't look like any expansion invites are going to be on the horizon in the next year or two if all the Alliance news bears out.
I never said Paul was on my side nor have I been in denial that K-State faces a tough road ahead in spite of its athletic tradition in the B12 relative others, including ISU.
Never know. There is a lot of legal posturing happening along with everything. Big XII holding OU and UT by the balls now could look bad if they were trying to align something to blow up the CFP to hammer the SEC and ESPN. Doesn’t look bad for the others though. It also finds out where the ACC (the other ESPN conference) stands in This situation.
There are two large issues KSU has that ISU doesn’t and both are non athletic.
1). Academics. ISU is an AAU school, which means favorable consideration with research grants, which amounts to way more than the media rights, or even the full AD budgets of any school.
2) KU. KSU has an Instate rival to duke it out with. Does a conference want both or just one? KU has a larger budget and is also the other AAU school in the remaining big XII. A conference may feel that landing one Kansas school helps but not both. Does KU and KSU get joined via politics, that could hurt both possibly. Which one is deemed more attractive?
Yeah the scheduling aspect will be a big plus but having the three aligning on how to move ahead with playoffs and other big issues that'll come will be even bigger as a way to blunt the SEC's attempted power grab.
Well that's pretty sobering...
"Of course, even the hint of an alliance is a bad sign for the Big 12. It signals that the Big Ten, ACC and Pac-12 do not believe the Big 12's eight remaining programs -- in any form -- bring substantial value to their conferences. Taken a step further, it suggests a reality that could see the Big 12 or American fade away with one likely absorbing the other.
Worse for the Big 12, it portends a nuclear winter for those schools' athletic budgets. Programs with hundreds of millions tied up in facilities will downsize. Minor sports will be dropped. The impact will affect not only athletics but the universities themselves. Being an autonomous (Power Five) institution is a branding that carries with it the cache that allows schools to hire staff, faculty and be awarded research grants. Even enrollment would likely be impacted."
ISU seems to be right up there in top 50 in viewership. I’m not sure how much of that is related to playing Oklahoma, Texas and Iowa. These are numbers from 2015-2019. 2020 isn’t included.
medium.com
Which college football programs bring in the most TV viewers?
TV viewership isn’t always the best way to measure a college football program’s value. But here’s how each school ranks since 2015.
How does being a P5 help with research grants? Many of the top research grant recipients aren’t even D1 football.
