Steve Prohm says he'll meet with Jamie Pollard to discuss his future next week...
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No, that's not at all what I think.
I think the university should have told the donor that the coach has only had one losing season so far out of four (in the pandemic year nonetheless), so said donor could do much more good spending that $10,000,000 helping out those hurting in said donor's community, because next year, IU can buy out the coach (if it becomes necessary) for 1/3 of that amount.
Indiana is a public university. The AD is probably self-supporting, but it is still part of the university, who has a duty to serve the public. Is the public best served by giving one university employee (who shouldn't need it if he's managed his finances properly) generational wealth in order to fire him, when there are a bunch of people who need help covering their basic living expenses while they wait to get their jobs back?
Loser??? Yes it is cold up here east wind and all. But my friends on CF will know first.
Holy crap. The $10MM was TO BUY OUT THE COACH. Nothing else. If it was a general donation, you'd have a gripe.
CycloneErik
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Well, yeah, sure, but now you're getting into a whole area of how money could do a lot more on the academic side than the athletic side, and that's uncomfortable for everyone, whether they're fans, administrators, or whoever.
Even though it would go a long way towards jobs, campus climate, outcomes, and whatever concepts, buzzwords and whatever someone would want to throw around. It ends up almost like the emphasis is misplaced.
So you are telling the Donor to buy a yacht instead?
Why does Iowa State NEED to buy out a coach who went winless in conference games? It's not really a question of need is it?
I don't know, guys that eventually become good power conference coaches don't have many bad years at mid-majors, other than taking over a bad program.
But on one hand you are knocking ADs for shallow evaluation, and are guilty of it yourself. Look at the years leading up to when TJ took over the Jacks and UNLV. Then compare those to what Smith, Medved or Gates took over. TJ had two great years at SDSU taking over for Nagy, then wasn't very good in year three (despite still having Daum). He had a good year taking over an 11-7 MWC team with several starter/rotation guys returning, then was not good this year.
The other guys took over worse situations and have their programs in a better place. It doesn't mean Smith would for sure win, but the guy with the highest winning % in the history of the MWC after taking over for a guy that won 16-18 games per year has pretty high odds of success. Medved taking over three absolutely garbage programs and taking 1-3 years to make them winners in all three cases suggests a high probably of doing it a 4th time.
None of the candidates ISU is going to land is going to be a sure thing. It's about finding the candidate with the best odds for success. I happen to think a deep analysis of resumes suggests there are realistic candidates that are more likely to succeed than TJ.
What percentage of college athletics spending is really a NEED? They are making a calculated bet that it gains them a return on investment. And for the millionth time, it's not like the donors in that case are saying, here's $10 million, do with it what you want. They are saying here's $10 million for a specific purpose.
It's sports. There is never a "need".
I would be willing to bet it would qualify for you and me.
Sucking at your job most certainly does qualify as "for cause" (as long as it is properly documented and opportunity is given for improvement)...except for college coaches, corporate executives, and a few other jobs. No university wants to deal with the publicity and fallout, so they just pay the money.
FWIW I wasn’t calling the guy who did it dumb and rich. I meant “dumb rich” as in it’s actually insane how much money the guy probably has.
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