Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

[Al_4_State]

I hadn't looked at that tab - that's good information. It makes it more questionable to me why the "re-opening" isn't on a Region basis rather than a county basis

My county is a really good example. We’re in Cedar Rapids’ region, but are 2.5 hours away. We haven’t had a single hospitalization or death. Our neighbor to the east had 1 hospitalized who has recovered, and they also have 0 deaths. People around here don’t go to Cedar Rapids for medical care or regular commerce. Why treat us the same?

To show how arbitrary these regions are, in order to drive from my home to Cedar Rapids, the county to the south of me is in a different region.

 

[knowlesjam]

Washington model updated their projections, and added a few things.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Big changes to death numbers in Iowa and Minnesota...nearly 4 times the last iteration of the model update. It also continues to increases cases and deaths through August 4th instead of basically leveling things off by early June.

 

[besserheimerphat]

Do you realize that as late as 01/15 the PRC and WHO were both tweeting the virus "wasn't person to person transmissible" ?

Did you know that the US intelligence community was aware of the virus in NOVEMBER? And they briefed the president in DECEMBER?

 

[Acylum]

Did you know that the US intelligence community was aware of the virus in NOVEMBER? And they briefed the president in DECEMBER?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/08/politics/intel-agencies-covid-november/index.html

 

[Clonehomer]

Washington model updated their projections, and added a few things.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Well there goes football.

Also, we should also stop calling this the Washington model. If this continues to show bad news, Trump may remove the state from the US.

 

[madguy30]

Well there goes football.

Also, we should also stop calling this the Washington model. If this continues to show bad news, Trump may remove the state from the US.

I think this is actually on the lower end of projections than what else has come out today.

So far they've been pretty far off as has everyone else.

Iowa's not even currently at 200 deaths connected to this thing and now they're going to jump 1300 over 2-3 months?

Agreed on football though.

 

[Acylum]

So far they've been pretty far off as has everyone else.

They've been criminally bad at modeling, especially for Wisconsin. They should just stop.

 

[awd4cy]

They've been criminally bad at modeling, especially for Wisconsin. They should just stop.

Yet people follow them like they are gospel

 

[madguy30]

They've been criminally bad at modeling, especially for Wisconsin. They should just stop.

Yeah and I'm pretty sure they're not even actually posting what's already happened. For example the numbers for daily cases don't line up from what I've seen.

And every state's 'estimated infections' have been going down while everyone's amount of cases are going up?

Any info out there estimating how many are actually infected can be good, useful information, but the highest estimated cases can't be behind us.

 

[Cyientist]

Yeah and I'm pretty sure they're not even actually posting what's already happened. For example the numbers for daily cases don't line up from what I've seen.

And every state's 'estimated infections' have been going down while everyone's amount of cases are going up?

Any info out there estimating how many are actually infected can be good, useful information, but the highest estimated cases can't be behind us.

Their assumptions, which were stated, were not good. They were overly optimistic of how well and how long protocols would be put in place and followed. Leaders never should have referenced that model's outputs when they had no intentions of following the model's assumptions.

When that thing jumped down to 60,000 projected deaths, it was a rallying cry for the we've got it under control, and lets push things as fast as possible to get to normal.

 

[Acylum]

Their assumptions, which were stated, were not good. They were overly optimistic of how well and how long protocols would be put in place and followed. Leaders never should have referenced that model's outputs when they had no intentions of following the model's assumptions.

When that thing jumped down to 60,000 projected deaths, it was a rallying cry for the we've got it under control, and lets push things as fast as possible to get to normal.

They may have been fine at modeling a few states, more in their region, I think they just bit off more than they could chew.

 

[Cyientist]

They may have been fine at modeling a few states, more in their region, I think they just bit off more than they could chew.

Exponential modelling has to be difficult, especially when you have to assume human behavior.

 

[alarson]

Exponential modelling has to be difficult, especially when you have to assume human behavior.

Yeah, so many variables, so many unknowns, and the fact that their own model could be a variable in itself. Plus there's probably a little bit of luck thrown in the mix too.

 

[Acylum]

What could possibly go wrong?
https://news.iheart.com/featured/co...eart Daily NewsTalk&campid=headline1_readmore

 

[madguy30]

What could possibly go wrong?
https://news.iheart.com/featured/coronavirus/content/2020-05-04-carnival-cruise-line-plans-to-sail-again-starting-august-1/?mid=391278&rid=94638956&sc=email&pname=newsletter&cid=NATIONAL&keyid=National iHeart Daily NewsTalk&campid=headline1_readmore

Booked.

Can't wait.

 

[CyArob]

Booked.

Can't wait.

Did you get the room option with norovirus or coronavirus?

 

[Acylum]

Did you get the room option with norovirus or coronavirus?

Yes.

 

[Cyientist]

Did you get the room option with norovirus or coronavirus?

May as well pay up for the bigger suites since your likely to be there for a while.

 

[madguy30]

Did you get the room option with norovirus or coronavirus?

 

[bawbie]

They may have been fine at modeling a few states, more in their region, I think they just bit off more than they could chew.

They were amplified by voices thay chose their model because they had the lowest numbers. I don’t blame the modelers for that.