Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

[Cyclonepride]

You are acting like killing 0.1% or 0.2% of 60%-80% is a small number. It's not. mortality rates of infection (not diagnosis) that high for a virus that reaches "herd" status is almost unheard of.

You act like destroying the economy will change something about that.

 

[bawbie]

I have no idea what you’re talking about but my point was simply that wearing a mask protects everyone it protects you and it protects others.

You accused me of being "brainwashed" by the media... that's what I was talking about.

 

[bawbie]

You act like destroying the economy will change something about that.

I don't believe I made that argument. The economic impact, in the long run, will be directly in relation to the health impact. The economy can't recover until the virus is contained.

 

[isufbcurt]

You act like destroying the economy will change something about that.

money money money money

 

[RoseClone]

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...-temperatures-ineffective-against-coronavirus

Until the next study and then it will be effective - you know, science.

 

[madguy30]

I work in manufacturing and per my company (essential) the current CDC guidance is that people who have come in contact with someone who has COVID-19 but are not showing symptoms themselves can continue to work. Since they could be asymptomatic though they have to take extra precautions (wearing a surgical mask, practice social distancing (which everyone should be doing...), and taking their temp every day.

Does this seem like a disaster waiting to happen? Has anybody else seen these recommendations (there was no link in the email to read more)?

I've seen or heard the stuff about the CDC saying to go without symptoms. Imo that should be a step if testing is more efficient, since there's so much evidence that people without symptoms have it and are likely spreading it.

 

[Cyclonepride]

money money money money

There's a very real connection between a healthy economy and public health, and the economic fallout if we continue on this path will dwarf deaths from the virus.

 

[MeowingCows]

You act like destroying the economy will change something about that.

We don't have an economy if most people are too scared to go do stuff in it, anyway. We won't recover until it's gone.

 

[isutrevman]

Mask requirements are the best thing for asymptomatic spread.

I'd say LA is over 95% compliant with mask mandate from what I see on the street. Sometimes it feels like 100%.

Entire country needs to get there asap. Especially the states that think they can successfully open early.

It made sense during the mad TP grab to lie about masks to save them for healthcare. Everybody needs to forget that messaging about masks making people sick because they don't use them right. It was temporary necessary bs because we were not prepared with medical supplies.

Where a mask or people could die.

I went to a hardware store in Des Moines yesterday and like 75% of people has masks. I went to the grocery store this morning and it was around 25%. I'd guess most of the people wearing them were between 30-50 years old. Old people around here DGAF.

 

[cycloneG]

To an extent. You still have to weigh the value of achieving herd immunity earlier, and not having to worry about this so much going forward. It would be strange if their mortality rate was any different than anyone else's, which tells you that A) they have a lot more cases and B) the mortality rate for this thing is likely going to be low once it is all sorted out.

The mortality rate goes down as knowledge of the virus increases. Not mitigating early, means more people will die that wouldn't have died had mitigation been implemented. You don't need a vaccine for mortality rates to decrease. Better treatments can save a lot of lives. You use mitigation early to give the medical community a chance to gather knowledge and resources.

 

[simply1]

Until the next study and then it will be effective - you know, science.

Let’s forsake science.

you first!

 

[Cyclonepride]

We don't have an economy if most people are too scared to go do stuff in it, anyway. We won't recover until it's gone.

Is it a sure thing that it will ever be gone?

 

[isutrevman]

Until the next study and then it will be effective - you know, science.

There is enough evidence that I don't think warmer temperatures will help slow the virus. However, there is also mounting evidence that UV light kills it rather quickly. So, more sunlight in the northern hemisphere and people spending more time outside will likely provide a positive benefit as we get warmer weather.

 

[CloniesForLife]

I've seen or heard the stuff about the CDC saying to go without symptoms. Imo that should be a step if testing is more efficient, since there's so much evidence that people without symptoms have it and are likely spreading it.

Yeah if we could get tests then sure but to keep going in w/o is irresponsible imo. Even if people are being extra cautious (a big if with some people) they could easily spread it.

 

[MeowingCows]

Is it a sure thing that it will ever be gone?

We don't know, but I'm pretty sure that uncertainty around transferrable diseases doesn't exactly encourage market activity, either.

 

[alarson]

There's a very real connection between a healthy economy and public health, and the economic fallout if we continue on this path will dwarf deaths from the virus.

Once again, this is pulled from your own ass with little data to back it up, but yet you keep repeating it.

There are factors that are increased by the shutdown. There are also factors (aside from covid itself) that are decreased by the shutdown. But you keep repeating this garbage without any data behind it, when the one 'known' is that covid will kill a lot of people if things are opened back up.

 

[Cyclonepride]

We don't know, but I'm pretty sure that uncertainty around transferrable diseases doesn't exactly encourage market activity, either.

It doesn't, but at some point, it has to become just another one of the myriad of things that can kill you, and you move on and live your life.

 

[ArgentCy]

There's a very real connection between a healthy economy and public health, and the economic fallout if we continue on this path will dwarf deaths from the virus.

Of course, deaths from starvation can be orders of magnitude larger than this silly virus.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Once again, this is pulled from your own ass with little data to back it up, but yet you keep repeating it.

There are factors that are increased by the shutdown. There are also factors (aside from covid itself) that are decreased by the shutdown. But you keep repeating this garbage without any data behind it, when the one 'known' is that covid will kill a lot of people if things are opened back up.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...f-thousands-of-children-in-2020-idUSKBN21Y2X7

There is little evidence that shutting down the economy actually helped.

 

[ArgentCy]

We are already getting close to the point of herd immunity by my estimation. Many studies have shown this is 50-80x more prevalent than the number say. Which also means it's far less deadly than they would like you to believe.