He’d have made the decision earlier, but was still celebrating his game winning dunk.
Terrence Lewis transferring
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Hopefully that’s the last one. I’m a little concerned about the two bigs. Replacing one of them would be a ***** at this point.
Honestly, having 5 returners isn’t terrible because I think all 5 can play. Gotta find 3-4 more between transfers and freshmen. With all the open schollies we have a lot of bites at the apple to hit on somebody. I kind of doubt any of the three guys that left would be enough to make much of a difference.
Honestly, having 5 returners isn’t terrible because I think all 5 can play. Gotta find 3-4 more between transfers and freshmen. With all the open schollies we have a lot of bites at the apple to hit on somebody. I kind of doubt any of the three guys that left would be enough to make much of a difference.
People say "reload with JuCos and transfers" like that's something you just do. There's an extremely, extremely minimal chance that works.
Exactly. Who knows what Prohm will replace them with, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
Would you all rather all these guys come back, and we bring in less transfers? Transfers are absolutely a crap shoot, for everybody, like pro sports drafts. They're not all going to be hits, but the more you got, the better your chances are.
We still have a solid core returning. Sounds like our sit out transfer is pretty good and can play Point-Forward while being able to guard 1-4 and has a pretty good shot. Top-25 recruiting class(of 4) coming in, hopefully at least two are ready to go out if the gate at this level.
Hit on some Juco/Grad Transfers and we could end up a lot better off than we were previously.
Hit on some Juco/Grad Transfers and we could end up a lot better off than we were previously.
At this moment, what are the better options? Would you rather have Grill, Lewis, and Griffin back? I'll guarantee they won't increase your chances of being better next season.
Not at all. I think Grill showed some promise at the end of the year, but assuming he would be a major contributer would be a huge jump. Prohm should be cleaning house. However, he is also the person who is refilling that house. He filled it the first time with people who couldn't contribute. Losing 8 scholarship players in 1 year, with 5 being not even big 12 quality is not a good state for a program to be in. We are in a full rebuild with a guy who took a program from the heights of hoiberg to needing a full rebuild. So unless he is changing all his evaluation methods, this could be rough. He also needs to hit on 4 guys to be immediate contributers. Of the people we have returning, we have 2 that are big 12 starter quality, and one of them is injury prone.
Unlike kstate who won the big 12 and made an elite 8 while losing their best player. What we have to show for our rebuild is a big 12 tournament championship, a 5th place big 12 finish, and a first round loss.
Everyone: "We need a culture change and need to get guys who can shoot the ball!"
(3 of the worst shooters and players leave) (Prohm actively trying to find better players)
Everyone: "Oh my God! We have no one left! We're only going to have 5 players next year."
Stop freaking out lol. We all wanted a re-vamped roster. We all were complaining we didn't have Big 12 capable guys. So lets not freak out that probably the 5 worst guys from this year (Griffin, Lewis, Grill, Jacobson, Nixon) are all not going to be here next year. It was inevitable that Tyrese was going to leave too.
We are definitely back at McDermott level ball.
I keep forgetting about the success rate with transfers that Steve has brought in......
Because this is our 5th transfer this season and 8th player to leave early in the last 2 with it likely getting to 9 or 10. This much attrition is bad
Someone is getting a walking bucket. If he can land at a midmajor, I could see him getting 20 a night his senior year, easy.
Griffin and Lewis were busts. Grill had some potential, and I would rather have him than not, but he was not exactly projected as a starter next year.
If anymore go after this, though, then it is a collapse.
Losing Young or Conditt would be devastating.
Prohm has brought in some good transfers before.
Darrell Bowie was okay as a 7th or 8th man.
Donovan Jackson was very good -- one-dimensional, but an ace shooter.
Marial Shayok was a home run. He's up there with White and Kane.
Michael Jacobson gave us more as a Cyclone than I expected him to.
You are right he has a very steep climb ahead of him.
That is the "optimistic" path forward to how this all somehow works out.
Dumb.
The best McD teams were at/probably below the level of the worst Prohm teams.
So you would rather stand pat with what we had coming back?
I would completely agree. That's why I think everyone about halfway through this year said that next year for Prohm holds a ton of weight. If he doesn't put together a capable team next year he's gone. And no, we don't need to go out and find 4 new guys. We have 5 guys that will be eligible from this current roster and we have a freshman class of 4. If we can get two solid contributors from this class, which it looks like we will, then we really only need two immediate contributors. Absolutely no different than before all of these guys transferred.
CycloneErik
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JUCO route is risky from an academic and behavioral standpoint? We're at the point now where we need to take risk. Take Grill for example long time ISU fan, but we didn't offer in the beginning? Why maybe we were not aware of him or the staff knew he would compete at big 12 level? We lose a couple guys, TJ moved to Vegas Grill is sitting our there it didn't cost us anything to sign Grill, meaning we chose Grill over someone else. There was no risk in signing Grill.
Now were scrambling to fill a roster with higher risk kids and a small pool. We need this freshman class to perform well and pan out, to keep continuity wiothin the program.
Now were scrambling to fill a roster with higher risk kids and a small pool. We need this freshman class to perform well and pan out, to keep continuity wiothin the program.
