The Rotten Tomatoes audience score for this thing is coming in so far drastically better than critics scores. Can't say I'm surprised after actually seeing the movie.
The OT made such an indelible cultural mark and created so many legions of lifelong fans that they have kept coming back for decades now... despite the crappy prequels and the, as you put it, the underwhelming and derivative sequels. But the series is not creating new crops of that. They either are not going to exist in the first place (e.g., the kids dig the MCU nowadays) or they are just going to walk away from it (as I have).
Star Wars is consuming itself as a commercial product, not investing in itself. The quick fall in returns between 7, 8, Rogue One, and Solo show that. You can make so much off mediocre films decades later because the originals really had that much of an impact.
I always took it as the dark side was willing to break down "barriers" that the jedi had set for themselves as to not be the all-powerful beings in the universe. A jedi consciously made a choice that it wouldn't tap into the intense power that comes with the force, but rather harness the power and use it for good. My belief was Sith could revive and rejuvenate because they were constantly willing to push the limits of what they could do.
Again I think you're 90% agreeing with me.
If you don't think the new trilogy made new fans, I can tell you you're wrong. My kids like these the most. Rey and Kylo are their Star Wars characters.
Again I think you're 90% agreeing with me.
If you don't think the new trilogy made new fans, I can tell you you're wrong. My kids like these the most. Rey and Kylo are their Star Wars characters.
Saying the sequel trilogy minted precisely zero new fans would be absurd, of course. A few of my cousins' children at least like the new ones.
I just do not think there are nearly as many of them as there were in the 1970s/1980s with the OT or even in the 1990s/2000s with the prequels.
I do not think kids today are going to turn into lifelong fanatics like people did with the OT, as well, or in nearly the same numbers. I would also postulate that kids nowadays are having a lot of "help" from their parents (or heck, even their grandparents at this point) getting into Star Wars when so many of those parents are lifelong fans.
The kids today are into the MCU or just time-killing YouTube videos, not Star Wars, making an obviously exaggerated but generally true statement about the cultural impact of these various franchises and entertainment products nowadays.
Lucas/Disney are still printing money on the impression the OT made. That fades eventually. The sequels are mining from that, not rebuilding it.
Lucas/Disney are still printing money on the impression the OT made. That fades eventually. The sequels are mining from that, not rebuilding it.
It's even crazier that this was on a US population of 220.2 million. Compare that to 329.45 million in the year 2019.When the A New Hope was made, movies were a lot bigger than they are now. As the previous poster said, there are very, very few things that everybody sees.
In 1977, 30% of all households in the US watched Laverne and Shirley, Happy Days, and Three's Company, with over 20 million people watching these shows per week. There were 178 million tickets sold to Star Wars.
In 2019, if you get a TV show with 10 million viewers that pretty much the biggest show on TV. Endgame sold 95 million tickets. There is nothing that will ever be as big as Star Wars, ever.
I think overall there is no such thing as light or dark side force powers. Those are simply the construct through which the Jedi and Sith see them. But characters like Bendu from Rebels show that the force in nature is very much residing in the "grey" area.
I think the critic score average went off the rails for sci-fi/comics/action movies a few years ago.
Years back 58% critic score wouldn't have shocked me for any sci-fi/comic movie that I actually liked, but now they've given many objectively bad movies in the category an 80+ rating that it's pretty much garbage.
I still like looking at the RT critic score for movies outside that space. Following the box office for kids movies closely the RT critic score has almost no connection to box office.
A big reason for all of that is the amount of options available. In 1977 the vast majority of homes had the large networks and possibly a local public television station. The ability to wait for a movie to "come out on cable" was pretty much non-existent. If you wanted to see the movie you had to go to the theater. If you missed it there you were likely waiting for several years before you would ever be able to see it on network TV.When the A New Hope was made, movies were a lot bigger than they are now. As the previous poster said, there are very, very few things that everybody sees.
In 1977, 30% of all households in the US watched Laverne and Shirley, Happy Days, and Three's Company, with over 20 million people watching these shows per week. There were 178 million tickets sold to Star Wars.
In 2019, if you get a TV show with 10 million viewers that pretty much the biggest show on TV. Endgame sold 95 million tickets. There is nothing that will ever be as big as Star Wars, ever.
I remember people who didnt like the last one got a ton of flack themselves for some reason. Wonder if we will see that again.
I'm loving Mando right now so we will see how this one is.
There was a little connection there with Rey being able to heal people and Kylo healing Rey at the end. I don't remember Jedi having healing powers in the past? Or am I completely forgetting times it has happened?
Just plain questions:
- Star Destroyers can't use their shields in the atmosphere?
They should be able to - there is no non-atmosphere requirement so far as I know.
- Were the Carrie Fisher scenes filmed, or did they do a CGI face for her like they did for Tarkin in R1?
They used old film from TLJ (outtake film). It's why her lines didn't really match up well - they had to design dialogue around what was already there.
- Admiral Pride said "as I served you in the old wars" or something like that. What is he referring to?
Think it's empire-rebellion wars or potentially clone wars? Most likely the original trilogy.
- Han as a force ghost? Or was that just Ben having a vision?
That was just a hallucination. Han can't be a force ghost as he wasn't force sensitive.
- Who was in the "audience" in Palpatine's underground throne room? I assume the ghosts of past Sith, but that's just a guess.
I believe you are correct. Ghosts of sith past (which is strange since dark side shouldn't be able to be force ghosts as far as I know even in new canon).
- Was Hayden Christensen's voice one of the Jedi voices at the end? I couldn't tell.
Yes.
Again, overall, I liked it 80-85%. It's not a special to me as the original Trilogy (4,5,6), but I liked it better than 8 by a lot, I'd put it on about the same level as 7. Better than the Prequels. Don't all you Negative Nancys out there bring me down!!!