You don't always need high impact players. We were highly successful with guys like Royce White (great player), Korie Lucious, Will Clyburn, Scott Christopherson, Kane, BDJ etc. Theres more than you remember.
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You don't always need high impact players. We were highly successful with guys like Royce White (great player), Korie Lucious, Will Clyburn, Scott Christopherson, Kane, BDJ etc. Theres more than you remember.
Completely agree, and didn't mean to imply that it was already coming into place. I just have gotten the feeling, through interviews and things of that nature that Prohm has done about recruiting, that the core of prep players is where he wants to get to, the model that he is trying to create. By no means is he going to be there this year, because of the mass exodus last year, but I have faith with the prep guys he has gotten, that he can do it.
I'm a Prohm believer, so I am willing to wait out these years before rushing to judgement on his abilities. I think he deserves at least that much.
The entire list since Fred came back to Ames is...
Jake Anderson
DeAndre Kane
Bryce Dejean-Jones
Darrell Bowie
Merrill Holden
...and that is it.
Kane was incredible. BDJ was talented but a 100% head case. I would take Anderson or Bowie on any team for depth, but not depend on them for much of anything on a team that has postseason ambitions. Holden was a bust and not a Big 12 player.
Not an incredible record.
I am not surprised that your comments attracted more dislikes than likes. Even though what you said are all facts. You are supposed to pretend as though everything is perfect at ISU damn it! I have never seen a fanbase that tolerates mediocrity as ISU fans. Can't do much about it. Good thing I get to jump on the seahawks bandwagon and get watch the seahawks for free when I go there or somewhere close to here.
The forum on here has always been a place of intense kool aid pumping. Anything that can be perceived as negative is immediately attacked. No one wants to hear the negativity even if it provides engagement to the discussion and opens minds to possibilities of improvements.
I actually think our coaching staff is doing an amazing job. if you can get the #1 juco and one of the top available grad transfers on campus to ames, iowa, that's all you can do.
no sense using logic or trying to rationalize recruiting. its recruiting.
no sense using logic or trying to rationalize recruiting. its recruiting.
They're just full of doubt, probably more than those willing to admit the past two springs haven't been good.
Once again, none of them are grad transfers
Whoops I was slow on the draw there
Since there's a long time before we get to watch our Clones again, I think people would rather feast on hope versus despair for the next few months. I don't mind a little realism, but some on here will latch onto that negativity and watch the world burn. Those are the ones that take that negativity and want to make everyone else miserable.
We've missed on some key pieces, however the pieces we have in place are pretty damn good. We're just young and lacking an experienced leader on the court. We're in unfamiliar territory after being spoiled with some pretty amazing years of Cyclone role models.
IMO, it comes down to whether us fans want to focus on the positive or negative for the next several months.
The "market inefficiency" of the transfer players that Hoiberg & staff exploited is not the same now that it used to be. There simply much more competition for transfer players than there used to be. Even with that ISU is still getting campus visits from players, but simply not landing them.
You cannot get them all, but the players like Bowie and Shayok are nothing to dismiss either. If we land Morrow, will it change your mind on transfer recruiting success?
Also, the past 2 years have been the 2 best MBB recruiting classes in recent memory and far better than any classes Hoiberg had. Grad, transfer, and JC players are great for filling immediate needs- don't get me wrong. But High school players are and should be the foundation of any program. So cool the jets on how abhorrent recruiting has been under Prohm.
12-19 next year. 2-16 in conference play. Book it.
2-16 in conference? Whom exactly are the 2?
I feel like we win quite a few more than that.
