List of potential replacements should Fred Hoiberg leave
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Per a source, Iowa State already has someone lined up to replace Hoiberg. #cyclONEnation
CyclONE NationWhat source do high school kids have?
As of last night they Hornacek has not been approached by his agent or ISU about the job.
He is hoping they do, but again it is just about as much of leveraging ISU against the Suns as it is Hornacek coming to Ames. Not saying it won't happen because if the Suns don't lengthen the deal it might cause him to take the opportunity. But if given a choice he would stay with Phoenix.
We've talked about this but JP is looking squarely at having to buy out a football coach and hire a football coach. This isn't really a good time to be looking for a MBB coach as well.
Do you really think Suns will give him an extension? I am hearing more rumblings that they want him out and don't want to extend him.
I fought the Otz early, but would be more fine with it now.
1. He provides continuity
2. Knows the players
3. Seems to be good recruiter
4. Cheap would not necessarily be bad. If things don't go well, we can afford the buyout *CPR*
Lastly, I think it would be beneficial to hire someone with ISU ties, not because that's what JP typically wants, but because I think it would be helpful to the fan base to have someone who understands this situation with our so-called "favorite son" leaving us high and dry. This is a very unique situation that not many programs have gone through, the only one that comes to mind to being remotely similar is when Roy left KU.
I keep telling myself that this is how Gonzaga built itself, with continuity, would be nice if we could do the same, but probably won't work out that way since we are, and always will be, Iowa State.
1. He provides continuity
2. Knows the players
3. Seems to be good recruiter
4. Cheap would not necessarily be bad. If things don't go well, we can afford the buyout *CPR*
Lastly, I think it would be beneficial to hire someone with ISU ties, not because that's what JP typically wants, but because I think it would be helpful to the fan base to have someone who understands this situation with our so-called "favorite son" leaving us high and dry. This is a very unique situation that not many programs have gone through, the only one that comes to mind to being remotely similar is when Roy left KU.
I keep telling myself that this is how Gonzaga built itself, with continuity, would be nice if we could do the same, but probably won't work out that way since we are, and always will be, Iowa State.
You are assuming that Leath disagrees with his approach. Internet mobs rarely get ADs fired.
Yes its the same one, complete 180 on his previous statement but he texted me out of the blue with this latest information. I have no reason to not trust him.
This fn sucks, why go to Bulls Fred? Smh...deep sigh
If true about Otz, I like it. Everything should be about next years team, keep the chemistry going forward into the season without the disruption of a new coach & win the whole damn thing! I think & hope Otz adopts the "hoiball" mentality, it's fun and players love that style. Also, I think Otz has the best ability to recruit and get the best players here for the following season. Just my opinion though.
If true about Otz, I like it. Everything should be about next years team, keep the chemistry going forward into the season without the disruption of a new coach & win the whole damn thing! I think & hope Otz adopts the "hoiball" mentality, it's fun and players love that style. Also, I think Otz has the best ability to recruit and get the best players here for the following season. Just my opinion though.
On 5/21 that family friend told you that Otz planned on Fred being here 2-3 more years. Sounds like people don't have a clue, or are lying about what they know including you, and/or the family friend.
What do you think his reasoning behind that strategy is? It's not like if he doesn't spend it on a coach it goes in to his pocket.
I'm with you. But I think Underwood or Prohm or equivalent would be slightly less risky than TJ because of head coaching experience...but not by much. I'd much rather hire TJ at $1.25 mil than Underwood at $2 or 2.25.
However, I would have that or more for Rice, Miller (won't happen), Mack, and Hornacek.
I'm coming around to the idea that we swing for the fences and if we don't knock it out of the park, go with TJ.
Well he is a CPA, and most CPA's I know (myself Excluded) operate on a more conservative basis.
This. If/when Hoiberg is gone and if/when Pollard replaces him with what Bob Barker would call "El Cheapo" and if/when the basketball program tanks because of it, I will officially be done with Pollard. While Pollard has done amazing things with the athletic facilities at ISU, especially on a limited budget, and what he's gotten us with that limited budget, part of the job of an AD is getting coaching right and Pollard has a BAAAAAAAAAAD track record with that.
No ISU athletic program in its history has the momentum that ISU Basketball has right now. Essentially, this will be Pollard's defining moment as ISU's AD - what he does when Hoiberg leaves. Get this wrong and the basketball team tanks because of it, especially if he goes cheap, and most of us won't forgive him for it.
I think there is a chance the Suns would say "great, take the ISU job. We'll go after Thibs." over giving him an extension. I don't doubt Hornacek WANTS to stay in Phoenix. But rumors are he's not getting renewed next year. And if he wants to keep a head coaching job, ISU may be the place for him. It's worth the discussion at the very least.
Agreed--we need stability. JP hired Fred knowing that'd he'd jump to the NBA eventually; as much as I like Fred, that's not building stability. A lot of people will claim that you can't build stability at a place like Iowa State, and maybe JP believes that as well. Personally, I think that's BS.
