Car chase and shots fired

[driegner]

Seeing the dahscam footage reaffirms my belief that the police were justified. Did they "have options" sure. But with me taking an observer's viewpoint I can't say I disgaree with what happened.

It was interesting to hear the officers consider calling off the pursuit, but by that time the truck was tearing around, backwards, on central campus which may have sealed his fate, honestly. If he had stayed on the roads I doubt they had any justification to open fire.

 

[cowgirl836]

After watching, seriously shocked no one else got killed....him flying through Lincoln Way without hitting a person, car, or the trailer hitting some one is unbelievable.

that was really hard to watch even though I knew he wasn't going to hit anyone (amazingly). So lucky no one else was hurt.

I did hear them say they knew who it was so they could back it off - when the truck was already driving across central campus. And certainly didn't seem like the vehicle was penned in considering he rammed the police car again about 2 seconds before you hear the shots.

 

[IcSyU]

Whoever made that trailer deserves some props. I was impressed by the whip around 4th/Beach and the trailer barely flinched. Definitely more comfortable hauling the golf cart around behind my Edge knowing the trailer can handle that kind of stuff.

 

[jbhtexas]

And certainly didn't seem like the vehicle was penned in considering he rammed the police car again about 2 seconds before you hear the shots.

Exactly. The pickup wasn't anywhere near being penned in and appears to have rammed the police car immediately prior to the shots being fired. Furthermore, that pickup appeared to be an F-250 SuperDuty, which gives it about a 2:1 weight advantage over those cop cars. Not likely that the cops were going to penn him in with just two cars.

 

[Gnomeborg]

There was nothing "immobile" or "penned in" about that truck.

The officer had already tried to get out of his vehicle and get the kid to stop once, and the kid had torn backwards through central campus and rammed his car once more, and another police cruiser as well. The kid rammed the shooter's car once more just a second before the shots were fired.

Also, the other officer responding to the situation was a DPS officer. I don't know if things have changed, but back in my days on campus, DPS cops didn't carry fire arms. Hard to make the case that the officer shouldn't have fired based on an officer without a fire arm not firing as well.

 

[3TrueFans]

Wow, how did he not hit anyone running through the stop light at Lincoln Way!?! Incredibly lucky.

 

[IcSyU]

Exactly. The pickup wasn't anywhere near being penned in and appears to have rammed the police car immediately prior to the shots being fired. Furthermore, that pickup appeared to be an F-250 SuperDuty, which gives it about a 2:1 weight advantage over those cop cars. Not likely that the cops were going to penn him in with just two cars.

Their only chance was the pursuit when the officer pulled the gun being close enough to just go instead of slowing down for the engaged officer and hitting the truck underneath to roll it as it was backing across central campus and even that would've been an incredible long shot which surely would have endangered more innocent people.

 

[3TrueFans]

Um yeah, totally justified. In no way immobilized or penned in, ramming police cars until the very end.

 

[Gnomeborg]

I would love for TxCyclones or ISUFBCurt to come back to the thread and give us their opinion of this vehicle no longer being a threat, or the officer responding incorrectly now.

 

[ISUCubswin]

Yeah. And backing off in that amount of time, I'm sure he never would have still gone the route he did

There was only what...15 seconds between "back off" and ******* driving on the grass?

 

[cowboycurtis]

That truck became a weapon as soon as he decided to run. Did he derserve to die? Probably not but he definetly desreved to be shot and stopped.

 

[Gnomeborg]

That truck became a weapon as soon as he decided to run. Did he derserve to die? Probably not but he definetly desreved to be shot and stopped.

He didn't deserve it, but he was trying really hard to earn it.

 

[JWIL4CY]

Deadly force was definitely justified there. Thank God central campus wasn't very busy at that time or a lot of people could've gotten hurt. I can't believe he didn't hit anyone crossing Lincoln Way.

 

[Palmer]

Stupid people get stupid prizes as someone put it yesterday....

 

[Tri4Cy]

There was nothing "immobile" or "penned in" about that truck.

The officer had already tried to get out of his vehicle and get the kid to stop once, and the kid had torn backwards through central campus and rammed his car once more, and another police cruiser as well. The kid rammed the shooter's car once more just a second before the shots were fired.

Also, the other officer responding to the situation was a DPS officer. I don't know if things have changed, but back in my days on campus, DPS cops didn't carry fire arms. Hard to make the case that the officer shouldn't have fired based on an officer without a fire arm not firing as well.

Hence the name change from DPS to ISU PD. I worked for them during the change. They wanted to separate themselves from the "parking nazi's" stigma. They are a fully certified and highly rated police force.

And agreed...the kid clearly made a case to ram into the squad car with the officer outside immediately before shots where fired to neutralize the threat.

 

[Agclone91]

That video was just weird to watch seeing that all go down on such familiar territory.

 

[3TrueFans]

That video was just weird to watch seeing that all go down on such familiar territory.

Definitely, I've seen dozens of videos just like that, but it was really weird watching him drive by the stadium and then through campus.

 

[Mtowncyclone13]

Video: Police release dashcam footage from car chase | Ames Tribune

after watching these i think deadly force was justified. that's probably why it only took a few days for the county attorney to determine that.

 

[JWIL4CY]

It's crazy how fast those things go down. That whole event was only 4 minutes.

 

[Gnomeborg]

Hence the name change from DPS to ISU PD. I worked for them during the change. They wanted to separate themselves from the "parking nazi's" stigma. They are a fully certified and highly rated police force.

And agreed...the kid clearly made a case to ram into the squad car with the officer outside immediately before shots where fired to neutralize the threat.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if it had chnged in the last couple years. I had a bunch of friends on the DPS force. Always seemed weird that they didn't carry to me.