We don't want you and we don't need you.

CarolinaCy

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Fair enough, and they would tell me it is entertainment and a donation and they have lots of choices of where to make real donations.

Of course they do, but donating money to an athletic department doesn't entitle anyone to anything, other than better seats and maybe some butt-kissing from the AD.
 

Ciclone

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Fair enough, and they would tell me it is entertainment and a donation and they have lots of choices of where to make real donations.

I understand what you're saying. That's just how I've started to look at it, personally, and it makes me feel better about it.
 

LindenCy

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If we just pretend the title of this thread is directed at Messingham, will everyone be happy?

(and great movie/song references throughout)
 

CyAg

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I understand what you're saying. That's just how I've started to look at it, personally, and it makes me feel better about it.

All I was doing was throwing out discussion points of the status and process this program is in at this point in time.
 

Klonz

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This team has won one game, and lost bad to UNI. We can be upset. We can want changes. This oh well lets wait till next year **** gets old. I have been waiting for next year for the last 12 years and really it hasn't got a lot better. 2 things that are really getting on my nerves. One is all the ******* excuses, from fans to the staff. Just say it admit it this team isn't very good. When things are not good changes have to be made. 2nd is fans telling me I have to be ok with a team that sucks. I hate to lose, I hate to wait, I hate getting my *** kicked.

If you are happy with an offense that is ranked in the bottom 90 of every category, what is wrong with you. If you are ok with the staff doing the same old thing week after week, thinking for some reason it will all of a sudden work, what is wrong with you. All these coaches get paid a lot of money to do their jobs, they need to get the job done or be ready to look for a new job. I have 85% faith in CPR, but there are coaches on this staff that should in no way be back next year, if they are back, my faith in CPR getting the job done at ISU really will fall.

Could not agree more!!
 

CycloneErik

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Of course they do, but donating money to an athletic department doesn't entitle anyone to anything, other than better seats and maybe some butt-kissing from the AD.

Yet many people do not donate to enterprises that fail or fail continually. Whether a person likes it or not, donors have expectations. Very few are donating without an expectation that things will improve. Many donors who don't see improvement eventually just move their donation to something with a stronger future.
 

WhatchaGonnaDo

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This whole thread

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Tedcyclone

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I dont think 99% of posters want everyone fired, just one guy. And im pretty sure that is going to happen so we 99% arent off in our view of our team. There is no possible way that CPR does not agree that the offense needs a major overhaul even with all the injuries.
 

00clone

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Yet many people do not donate to enterprises that fail or fail continually. Whether a person likes it or not, donors have expectations. Very few are donating without an expectation that things will improve. Many donors who don't see improvement eventually just move their donation to something with a stronger future.


Are taxes considered a donation?

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-nocave...just a joke
 
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Yet many people do not donate to enterprises that fail or fail continually. Whether a person likes it or not, donors have expectations. Very few are donating without an expectation that things will improve. Many donors who don't see improvement eventually just move their donation to something with a stronger future.

While I can't argue with your logic, I urge you and anyone else that is tempted to give in to the pain that is being a Cyclone fan to continue the fight. Just like the offense on the field, we have clawed for every inch of ground gained by this program. ISU is no longer a perennial doormat despite being the northernmost school in the Tex... er Big XII conference. There is more parity in college football than I have seen in my lifetime and this program has and will continue to benefit from that. Let's be honest here, our footing in a BCS conference is precarious but I do believe the staff is doing everything they feel they can to solidify that hold. Is it enough for us fans? Not very often and that's okay. However, I can't remember a point since Seneca left where I felt ISU had a shot game in and game out like I do with this coach.
 

CycloneErik

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While I can't argue with your logic, I urge you and anyone else that is tempted to give in to the pain that is being a Cyclone fan to continue the fight. Just like the offense on the field, we have clawed for every inch of ground gained by this program. ISU is no longer a perennial doormat despite being the northernmost school in the Tex... er Big XII conference. There is more parity in college football than I have seen in my lifetime and this program has and will continue to benefit from that. Let's be honest here, our footing in a BCS conference is precarious but I do believe the staff is doing everything they feel they can to solidify that hold. Is it enough for us fans? Not very often and that's okay. However, I can't remember a point since Seneca left where I felt ISU had a shot game in and game out like I do with this coach.

Some thoughts here:
1. I didn't say I'm tempted to give up. I'm saying that people invest less in things that aren't moving forward.

2. There really isn't more parity than ever before. Just look at our conference standings. We're looking at a pretty clear "haves" and "have nots" situation developing here and elsewhere.

3. The offense doesn't scratch and claw for much of anything. I think that's one of the major problems people have with that group.
 

00clone

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Some thoughts here:
1. I didn't say I'm tempted to give up. I'm saying that people invest less in things that aren't moving forward.

2. There really isn't more parity than ever before. Just look at our conference standings. We're looking at a pretty clear "haves" and "have nots" situation developing here and elsewhere.

3. The offense doesn't scratch and claw for much of anything. I think that's one of the major problems people have with that group.


Erik: What he's saying is that when things start getting to you, you need to learn to lightly brush it off or just let it go by like you didn't even see it....like our offensive line.
 
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CycoCyclone

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must score to win in the Big XII, that HAS to be in someone's job description, and I know where that starts.

So does CPR.

Wally has proven you can be successful with ISU talent, just need the white wizard OC to compliment it.
 

BoxsterCy

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Gotta love the "think like me, act like me or you are a bad fan and person" posts. Well, not really, good grief, people have opinions that are not going to match yours and you don't get to throw everyone out of the club that doesn't agree with you. Start your own country club and assign yourself as membership director. Think you should be saying "I" not "we"
 
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