It's official Jay in Conan Out
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What's sad is that they've been doing this for forever, too. I was a huge fan of "Freaks & Geeks" when it came out, and it was a Friday night show - yet, since the target audience was the 18-49 deographic, everyone was out of the house. Murdered the show.
You have an awesome memory! :smile: I would love to see that, too. Dave and Leno had the huge late night wars several years ago; I'd love to see Conan step into an already-built audience of people who aren't 112, and bring his true fans. He would just destroy Leno. I think Ferguson will do a great job if/when he eventually gets it, though.
Wow - you like to remind posters here to stay classy and avoid personal attacks, and then you post this.
Wow. Got hypocrisy?
Is that seriously a "got milk" joke? Really?
And please tell me to whom I made a personal attack? Can you really be this defensive about Jay Leno?
Don't worry holmes. On a scale of **** and vinegar, you've still got her covered.
+1.
I'm not 112 and I like Jay, so I take offense to her insinuation.
As far as I am concerned, Jay is the best host the Tonight show ever had, with the exception of Jack Paar. Now, he was an entertainer. My grandson bought me tickets to his final show. I remember before I went, I had to go to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you'd say. Now where were we, oh ya. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because if the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...zzzzz.....zzzzzz....
Angie, apologize already!
Clearly Tornado Man has been through enough.
-Three Different Centuries
-Two World Wars
-The Depression
-The Invention of Television
-Hippies
-Getting Moved into the Seniors Home
-Watergate
-Getting Moved into a new Seniors Home
And now at 112 he has to deal with you making fun of him for watching Leno? Take it back Angie! It's modern marvel this man can still press his fingers to a keyboard and now your mocking him and turning him away. For shame!
Ah quicker to the punch GC. Its clear I was too ambitious in my mocking. Short and sweet. I have much to learn from you...we all do.
History says that the networks will do what they choose to do. I believe that Letterman once had ties to Carson's company and was Carson's choice to succeed him. NBC went with Leno anyway.
NBC also did everything that they could to undermine Letterman when he went to CBS. They claimed intellectual property right to key segments of Letterman's show such as Viewer Mail and Larry "Bud" Melman. Letterman did an end run on many of these issues by simply changing the names of the segements.
For several years he killed Leno in the ratings. Leno and NBC then started to play hardball to turn the ratings around. They banned anyone associated with an NBC show from appearing on Letterman. They also cashed in all of their Hollywood chips and made it clear to the studios that the Leno show should be the 1st choice of promotional appearances. Many were told that if they appeared on Letterman, that they would never be booked on the Leno show. Leno ended up with the stronger guest list which had more to do with his climb in the ratings than anything that he did on the show.
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That makes sense... because it sure isnt jay being funny that did it. Ask most that like leno what's funny and 90% of them will say headlines or jaywalking, both things that require *nothing* from a host.
And the better guests formula is how he stole viewers from conan too... the existing relationships and earlier timeslot the leno show had got talent to that show.
And the better guests formula is how he stole viewers from conan too... the existing relationships and earlier timeslot the leno show had got talent to that show.
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