Would TJ drop everything and take the ISU job if it came open?

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One year in Iowa as a foreign exchange student doesn't exactly make her an Iowan, although we'd be happy to claim her. She's Australian.


Correct, I am sure she still has a lot of friends and people she considers family in the Ames area. Having that support while raising a young family would be big, especially as a coaches wife. Maybe that does not concern them, but a lot of people would value that.
 

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I didn’t really have a problem with our D last night. We had three stretches where they didn’t score for 3 or 4 minutes. We just couldn’t score and they would get an easy look off an o rebound and knock it down and kill our momentum. As for the T that was justified and it actually got us going to make it what it was at the end. Those “moving screen” calls all night were absolute ********.

Yeah, fair points. It always seemed like we were mutually cold or mutually hot with them last night. The only real "run" of the night was early when SDSU went from down one to up 10 and never looked back.

We just needed to get one good run of our own going... and we never really did it except maybe towards the end.

And I agree with you -- that one on Solomon when the guy ran up and into him especially was awful. To be fair, Conditt has struggled with that exact issue his whole career now, and it always catches up with him.
 

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Solo's offense is great. But in the future, we need bigger and more athletic post players. Foster can hopefully develop into that. He's hurt/still recovering so give him time
This, they either need more athletic 5s or a 5 who can shoot it from 3. Hopefully, Foster lives up to his potential. But they have struggled in both HS and transfer recruiting to get good bigs.
 
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I'm embarrassed to say Iowa State basketball pessimists = Texas football pessimists. Who on earth would be foolish enough to expect all these talented freshman to gel as a team this soon in their careers. Furthermore, does anyone ever consider money anymore? From politics to expensive buyouts to expensive contracts, I see the senseless 'enabled' mentality permeate society like I've never seen before.
Yup- you got me.. You SHOULD be embarrassed as your take absolutely SUCKED. I am on record that we won't fire Steve so yeah- I considered money but thanks for the lecture (do you even read?) Nothing is more enabled than someone supporting a millionaire who DOES not produce at his job. That is enabling to a T and I am sorry for you that you continue to do that. You should seek help for it.

Myth- this is not a young team. The team that played last night was very experienced but it was not experience that came playing together. The four freshmen combined for what, 20 minutes of the 200 available? Granted that they need time but this is a business based on production. ISU is 49-51 under this coach since the 17-18 season started.

Myth- we have talent. This is a mid-major roster comprised of transfers from mid-major schools and players that are marginal P6 players. The results will show that to be true at season's end. Those that have a shred of potential at this level are in need of time to develop or were diamonds in the rough. Staff needs to recruit with that in mind and has failed to do so. The work for that to be done would have been two years ago.

Roster management is a part of the job- it is one that he fails at as much as his game management work fails.

Texas FB? what does that have to do with any of this? Politics? C'mon kid, stay on the subject- don't move the target or use metaphors that don't relate to the topic at hand. 49-51- you are what your record says. That is not pessimism- that is reality

My suggestion is that you start watching games of ISU and other schools. Understand the business that this sport is and get away from lecturing and judgement of others.

You still suck- have a great day!
 

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If anyone is calling for a coaching change... You really need a reality check because your expectations should not have been very high for 2020-2021

He's not worthy of being ISU's coach. But go ahead and rinse and repeat your lower expectations drumbeat until he's gone.
 

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Lol every year this crap happens. Even Fred had terrible let downs. People are so up in arms that we aren't undefeated at home, but Fred couldn't win on the road. I just think we are too manic as a fan base.

I’m up in arms that we ******* suck. Home, away, on the moon, in a volcano, under the sea, on a boat, on a train, on an aircraft carrier we aren’t good and I don’t see any light except Ty Hunter coming in 2021.
 

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Do we even know if TJ is a good coach? I mean he was a good recruiter (like Prohm) handled his business in a mid-major with another coaches players (Like Prohm). The only difference is he went to another mid major and did just ok.

I dont know why you all are in love with TJ. The only thing I can think of is that you believe he is an extension of Fred and will bring back the warm fuzzies of Hoiball. While it doesn't appear Steve is the solution, I dont know if you could really convice me TJ would have faired any better.
 

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Do we even know if TJ is a good coach? I mean he was a good recruiter (like Prohm) handled his business in a mid-major with another coaches players (Like Prohm). The only difference is he went to another mid major and did just ok.

I dont know why you all are in love with TJ. The only thing I can think of is that you believe he is an extension of Fred and will bring back the warm fuzzies of Hoiball. While it doesn't appear Steve is the solution, I dont know if you could really convice me TJ would have faired any better.

We’ll never know unless we find out. There’s only one way to find out.
 

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We’ll never know unless we find out. There’s only one way to find out.

Having a Georges Niang or Mike Daum can hide a lot of problems. Like I said, I don’t think Steve is the guy, but TJ hasn’t shown that he can do it either without a fantastic point forward type player.
 

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Having a Georges Niang or Mike Daum can hide a lot of problems. Like I said, I don’t think Steve is the guy, but TJ hasn’t shown that he can do it either without a fantastic point forward type player.
Good coaches produce good players. However, I believe TJ needs to prove a little bit more before he takes a bigger job. SDSU was a job where he took over a solid program and continued it. That is essentially what Prohm did at Murray. TJ is currently right where he needs to be, proving he can build something into more. If can show that at UNLV, he will get a big job because we all know he can recruit. The question is, can he truly coach?
 
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Do we even know if TJ is a good coach? I mean he was a good recruiter (like Prohm) handled his business in a mid-major with another coaches players (Like Prohm). The only difference is he went to another mid major and did just ok.

I dont know why you all are in love with TJ. The only thing I can think of is that you believe he is an extension of Fred and will bring back the warm fuzzies of Hoiball. While it doesn't appear Steve is the solution, I dont know if you could really convice me TJ would have faired any better.

This is where I'm at. My question with TJ, how good of a coach is he? It's not like Prohm has been a terrible recruiter here. He's had his misses, like every other coach has. Also brought in some studs. TJ would be able to bring in talent, maybe a more focused midwest approach, but he has connections all over the country. And it would depend what assistants he hires.

Is TJ capable of establishing an identity on both ends, coaching to that, making good gameplans and in-game adjustments? I haven't seen enough of his teams/coaching to know if he is a better Xs & Os coach than Prohm. I sure hope he is. I would guess he has some Hoiberg principles on offense. I wouldn't automatically give the job to TJ without exploring some other candidates. Like others have mentioned, TJ had it pretty well at SDSU, now he's doing a rebuild at UNLV, so really hard to judge. I guess I don't think he's setting the world on fire at either place.

Prohm is a poor tactician of the game. And that's why I want him gone. Every opponent we face, I know we are going to get out-schemed and beat from in-game adjustments, special situations, etc. His offensive system is space, stand, watch the ball-screen. That only works when you have elite offensive players, and even talent sometimes doesn't make it work. He is willing to let the opponent dictate the style of game, which has killed our play in Hilton over the years. I'm thinking of slow-down games that he is perfectly fine playing against KSU, TCU, Texas, and mid-majors.

Other than the Jeff Beverly rebuilding year, he has had enough talent to compete. He doesn't use his personnel and bench effectively. I'm sure he thinks Xavier Foster is going to be a low-post, back to the basket guy. I'm skeptical Prohm will be able to develop him or be able to keep him on the team long enough....Or you could utilize each player's strengths. But that would mean adapting his "system", which he doesn't know how to do. Prohm is a nice guy, bad basketball coach.
 
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TJ has done nothing at UNLV thus far to indicate he could be our savior. He won at South Dakota State with the previous regime's players, not to mention stud multiple year Summit League MVP, Mike Daum. I guess I'd hold off on saying let's throw the checkbook at him for now. We're better off with Prohm until Otz really separates himself.

No question he would take the job if offered.
 

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Tourney trips are the expectation in my book. Most of us can accept a down/rebuild year or even two if the team has great prospects. Next year should be make or break for Prohm.
Especially when the NET rankings the past few years have made reaching the tournament for a major conference team easier than ever.
 

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Yup- you got me.. You SHOULD be embarrassed as your take absolutely SUCKED. I am on record that we won't fire Steve so yeah- I considered money but thanks for the lecture (do you even read?) Nothing is more enabled than someone supporting a millionaire who DOES not produce at his job. That is enabling to a T and I am sorry for you that you continue to do that. You should seek help for it.

Myth- this is not a young team. The team that played last night was very experienced but it was not experience that came playing together. The four freshmen combined for what, 20 minutes of the 200 available? Granted that they need time but this is a business based on production. ISU is 49-51 under this coach since the 17-18 season started.

Myth- we have talent. This is a mid-major roster comprised of transfers from mid-major schools and players that are marginal P6 players. The results will show that to be true at season's end. Those that have a shred of potential at this level are in need of time to develop or were diamonds in the rough. Staff needs to recruit with that in mind and has failed to do so. The work for that to be done would have been two years ago.

Roster management is a part of the job- it is one that he fails at as much as his game management work fails.

Texas FB? what does that have to do with any of this? Politics? C'mon kid, stay on the subject- don't move the target or use metaphors that don't relate to the topic at hand. 49-51- you are what your record says. That is not pessimism- that is reality

My suggestion is that you start watching games of ISU and other schools. Understand the business that this sport is and get away from lecturing and judgement of others.

You still suck- have a great day!
What's Prohm's buyout? Do you have the money to pay it? Didn't think so. Also, last I checked this is one hell of a freshman class. That said, can't deny his disappointing record. You got me there. As for football, it was an analogy of spoiled fans. You just proved that.
 
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TJ has done nothing at UNLV thus far to indicate he could be our savior. He won at South Dakota State with the previous regime's players, not to mention stud multiple year Summit League MVP, Mike Daum. I guess I'd hold off on saying let's throw the checkbook at him for now. We're better off with Prohm until Otz really separates himself.

No question he would take the job if offered.
Not that I disagree, but it seems funny to me some are willing to give Prohm a pass in year 6, yet some of the same people aren't for Otz in year 2 who has walked into a tough situation at UNLV.
 

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Lol every year this crap happens. Even Fred had terrible let downs. People are so up in arms that we aren't undefeated at home, but Fred couldn't win on the road. I just think we are too manic as a fan base.

Are you happy with where our program is right now? Especially looking at where we were when Prohm was hired vs where we are today?