Would TJ drop everything and take the ISU job if it came open?

[Gunnerclone]

Was there any semblance of consistent offensive plays, or the usual running around outside and then throwing up a bad shot? I shut it off after the first 10 minutes. Try running an offense to get a decent shot, because I saw little being able to break your man down off the dribble.

It was the Golobetrotters routine all night. I posted this in the game thread but there were tons of open mid range looks for Bolton, Harris, JCL, and Johnson and they never even attempted one. I know how ISU fan is conditioned to be in that Fred mindset of 3’s and layups but Prohms offense requires that shot to at least be a threat. If no will at least take that shot the defense never has to cheat over and you see the effect being we never get wide open looks for three.

It also seems like instead of ball movement the focus is now on player movement to create openings and I don’t like it.

 

[mred]

His wife is an Iowan and Cyclone, I am sure she would be all for returning home.

One year in Iowa as a foreign exchange student doesn't exactly make her an Iowan, although we'd be happy to claim her. She's Australian.

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[Sigmapolis]

Was there any semblance of consistent offensive plays, or the usual running around outside and then throwing up a bad shot? I shut it off after the first 10 minutes. Try running an offense to get a decent shot, because I saw little being able to break your man down off the dribble.

I thought they generally got good looks outside. They just missed them.

The real problem was giving up 71 to a Summit League team.

They had 11 offensive rebounds to our 6. We let some goofy White dude named Baylor Scheierman put up 18 on us. We are just going to be bad on the boards and bad on defense, and that will kill us.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Sorry, Jake can suck a fat one. Garza isn’t from Iowa. Wilson would get eaten alive in the Big12 being a 6’6” post exclusive player just like Soli gets eaten up being a 6’7” post in this league.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I thought they generally got good looks outside. They just missed them.

The real problem was giving up 71 to a Summit League team.

They had 11 offensive rebounds to our 6. We let some goofy White dude named Baylor Scheierman put up 18 on us. We are just going to be bad on the boards and bad on defense, and that will kill us.

Scheierman is a baller. Great multi-sport athlete too.

 

[Die4Cy]

Leath wanted Prohm. I’m not sure why anyone thinks this has anything to do with religion.

People here reference it all the time, I have no idea where that comes from.

 

[heitclone]

The team we watched move the ball, take great shots, always ready to make a play, execute out of timeouts and take advantage of the matchups that favored them last night in Hilton was a TJ coached/built team. They looked like the Fred teams we once saw lighting it up in Hilton. He can't get here soon enough but he won't need to drop everything. Prohm will get minimum next year but probably at least 2 more. By that time, the question will be, where will TJ be coaching? Would he have any interest in a total teardown, gutjob rebuild...that's where JP has this program headed.

 

[Gunnerclone]

The team we watched move the ball, take great shots, always ready to make a play, execute out of timeouts and take advantage of the matchups that favored them last night in Hilton was a TJ coached/built team. They looked like the Fred teams we once saw lighting it up in Hilton. He can't get here soon enough but he won't need to drop everything. Prohm will get minimum next year but probably at least 2 more. By that time, the question will be, where will TJ be coaching? Would he have any interest in a total teardown, gutjob rebuild...that's where JP has this program headed.

Just think if TJ were the coach right now we might have both Hauser brothers on the roster.

 

[MartyFine]

Prohm has, essentially, a lifetime contract at ISU. He isn't going anywhere unless someone else hires him.

 

[Cloneon]

When can ISU fans have expectations again? It won't be next year because someone will leave and the staff will be caught with their pants down-again and people will make excuses- again for this demonstrated incompetence.

You cannot be at the bottom of the league in a P6 league two of the past three years and then lose to a good mid major- but still a mid major and have people be happy with that. If that is the ISU culture then that culture sucks.

I'm embarrassed to say Iowa State basketball pessimists = Texas football pessimists. Who on earth would be foolish enough to expect all these talented freshman to gel as a team this soon in their careers. Furthermore, does anyone ever consider money anymore? From politics to expensive buyouts to expensive contracts, I see the senseless 'enabled' mentality permeate society like I've never seen before.

 

[CyPunch]

I think TJ would understand what it takes to win here. He would also recruit the upper Midwest well. That's probably his biggest strength. Like with many he would need to fill out a good staff to be successful.

I've been less impressed than some with his results at UNLV though.

 

[Die4Cy]

Translation: I haven't been able to leverage my ISU ties into scholarship offers for my AAU players.

 

[JM4CY]

Prohm has, essentially, a lifetime contract at ISU. He isn't going anywhere unless someone else hires him.

In this scenario, There’s enough hate from some of the people around here that I would worry his house might get burned down in an effort to run him out of town.

 

[cyfan92]

Solo's offense is great. But in the future, we need bigger and more athletic post players. Foster can hopefully develop into that. He's hurt/still recovering so give him time

 

[madguy30]

It was the Golobetrotters routine all night. I posted this in the game thread but there were tons of open mid range looks for Bolton, Harris, JCL, and Johnson and they never even attempted one. I know how ISU fan is conditioned to be in that Fred mindset of 3’s and layups but Prohms offense requires that shot to at least be a threat. If no will at least take that shot the defense never has to cheat over and you see the effect being we never get wide open looks for three.

It also seems like instead of ball movement the focus is now on player movement to create openings and I don’t like it.

Looked last night like everyone was moving about the same way--get the ball and try to force the dribble inside--or not moving at all. And it wasn't like they're Jamal Tinsley in their attempts.

The stuff with Solo hitting his jumpers was good I guess but that's not really complimenting anything and teams would be wise to not really worry much about it.

 

[CYEATHAWK]

Translation: I haven't been able to leverage my ISU ties into scholarship offers for my AAU players.

Hey Jake.......is Ottumwa in Iowa, I forget?

 

[MeowingCows]

Sorry, Jake can suck a fat one. Garza isn’t from Iowa. Wilson would get eaten alive in the Big12 being a 6’6” post exclusive player just like Soli gets eaten up being a 6’7” post in this league.

We also literally just recruited a big-name guy from Iowa. What a useless take.

 

[Gunnerclone]

We also literally just recruited a big-name guy from Iowa. What a useless take.

Pretty sure we were trying to get Devries as well. Iowa is a hard state to recruit because 60% of kids are Hok fans and eastern Iowa seems like the “hot bed” of In state recruiting. The other side is alot of the good players seem to be coaches kids and then they just go where their dads are.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Scheierman is a baller. Great multi-sport athlete too.

I am not trying to take anything away from a good mid-major program with lots of ISU connections.

But we were bad on defense last night. That late three Scheierman hit was the dagger.

We were down 61-54 with roughly 4:30 left and held SDSU to a heave three at the end of the clock... and it went in.

Then Prohm got T'd up, so just like that it was back to 10. We ended up losing by 3.

We had it down to 3, 2, and even 1 briefly a few times late last night.

Have that shot and that T back and, well, it might have been the difference in the game.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I am not trying to take anything away from a good mid-major program with lots of ISU connections.

But we were bad on defense last night. That late three Scheierman hit was the dagger.

We were down 61-54 with roughly 4:30 left and held SDSU to a heave three at the end of the clock... and it went in.

Then Prohm got T'd up, so just like that it was back to 10. We ended up losing by 3.

We had it down to 3, 2, and even 1 briefly a few times late last night.

Have that shot and that T back and, well, it might have been the difference in the game.

I didn’t really have a problem with our D last night. We had three stretches where they didn’t score for 3 or 4 minutes. We just couldn’t score and they would get an easy look off an o rebound and knock it down and kill our momentum. As for the T that was justified and it actually got us going to make it what it was at the end. Those “moving screen” calls all night were absolute ********.