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I am with you on the Jurassic World trilogy. Jurassic World was actually really good and a great start to what could have been a fun three movies. But Fallen Kingdom and Dominion were absolutely awful and so far away from Jurassic World it upset me so much. We went from seeing the actual park in action with a simplistic, yet great premise behind genetically creating too much with the Indominus Rex to whatever the F they did in the next two movies.

They didn't pull it off completely but I think that premise is pretty smart. That's exactly how it'd happen, we'd all get used to dinos being real and the moment the park made slightly less money year over year the people running it would get more and more desperate to change that until they F it up. And all of that fits into the theme of the first movie perfectly.

I went from laughing at the ending of 1 because it was fun, to laughing at the way 2 ended because it was so dumb, to being genuinely mad at the end of 3 because of how bad it was.
 

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I watched Jodorowsky's Dune, and I don't remember it spending too much time on the Lynch film. I remember it mostly hyping the never-made film into a lost masterpiece and showing us just what a loon (a gifted and creative one, obviously, but nonetheless) Jodorowsky was then and still is now.

I doubt a 70s Dune by Jodorowsky would have worked. There was undeniably talent involved, but I think many of its ideas ending up in later sci-fi or fantasy films (e.g., Star Wars, Alien, etc.) with less ambition behind them was for the best. Star Wars designed its sci-fi elements around what the special effects at the bleeding edge of the possible were available in the late 1970s. You don't get to do that with Dune. You need a way to make a skyscraper-sized worm swimming through sand look convincing. Then you need to have people riding it.

The Lynch movie couldn't pull that off. I don't think Jodorowsky could have a decade earlier.

Plus, Jodorowsky had very little reverence for the source material, and the budget was absurd for its era and the preproduction sounded like it was turning into a mess. I watched and enjoyed El Topo, which I would describe as an "acid western" or The Man with No Name but really ******* weird. I just don't know if that surrealist style gels well with the serious themes, worldbuilding, characters, and politics of Dune.

I think we needed to wait until roughly now for Villeneuve to have the seamless blend of practical and computer effects to make something like Dune look as full and real as it did on screen.



I've never seen The Last Jedi or Rise of Skywalker. Nor have I any of the "Jurassic" films after Jurassic World (though really all of them after the original seem to be bad to terrible).

I haven't said anything bad about the ones I haven't seen in this thread because, well, I haven't seen them. But considering the way their predecessors treated me, I don't think I missed much.

I would recommend Jurassic World now that you have lower expectations, but I wouldn't touch the 2nd & 3rd movies in either of those trilogy's unless you're treating it like a history exhibit where you just want to see exactly how badly it went.

Funny just how much those 2 trilogies mirrored each other. They both tried that weird soft reboot in the first movie and then got more and more lost as they went.
 

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If we’re talking about bad movies with budgets that aren’t fun in any way then Rise of Skywalker goes right to the top of my list. Just a disaster in every way. The shining example of what happens when you don’t plan out your series.

Jurassic Park Dominion is the same, they had a movie with dinosaurs and made it mostly about bugs. And the reunion aspect of it had a ton of potential but was completely wasted.

I would not put it in the category of "Worst movies I've ever seen", but it's definitely one of the strangest in terms of the direction it went.

I thought the movie was going to be about the ongoing tension of if and how can dinosaurs and humans co-exist on the same planet, and instead the main threat turns out to be giant locusts? And the reunion/meeting of the original trilogy characters was so anti-climatic..."Hey, you're Dr. Grant! Yes, I am! You're Owen Grady! I've heard about you! We should escape from these dinosaurs! Yes, good idea!"...really?

And then was one just really awkward scene with Jeff Goldblum's character (and Goldblum is always great even if his movies aren't) engaged in tense dialogue with the biggest human villian where at the end of the conversation his character just looks at the other guy and says his name out loud like it's supposed to be some kind of verbal weapon..."Dodgson!" It's actually quite unintentionally funny looking back on it.
 
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They didn't pull it off completely but I think that premise is pretty smart. That's exactly how it'd happen, we'd all get used to dinos being real and the moment the park made slightly less money year over year the people running it would get more and more desperate to change that until they F it up. And all of that fits into the theme of the first movie perfectly.

I went from laughing at the ending of 1 because it was fun, to laughing at the way 2 ended because it was so dumb, to being genuinely mad at the end of 3 because of how bad it was.
Spot on. Jurassic World's premise and plot made complete sense and was a way to do the original Jurassic Park justice with the dinosaurs running amok but not just doing a carbon copy of that film with a new coat of paint (a la The Force Awakens).

Fallen Kingdom had so much potential, but they delved into some really weird crap and the setting being just this mansion was strange. And they try the same, bigger, badder and more teeth thing with the indo raptor. Problem was is you actually had a down grade from the badassery that was the indominus rex.

Dominion...well there was absolutely nothing redeeming about that crap fest.
 
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I would not put it in the category of "Worst movies I've ever seen", but it's definitely one of the strangest in terms of the direction it went.

I thought the movie was going to be about the ongoing tension of if and how can dinosaurs and humans co-exist on the same planet, and instead the main threat turns out to be giant locusts? And the reunion/meeting of the original trilogy characters was so anti-climatic..."Hey, you're Dr. Grant! Yes, I am! You're Owen Grady! I've heard about you! We should escape from these dinosaurs! Yes, good idea!"...really?

And then was one just really awkward scene with Jeff Goldblum's character (and Goldblum is always great even if his movies aren't) engaged in tense dialogue with the biggest human villian where at the end of the conversation his character just looks at the other guy and says his name out loud like it's supposed to be some kind of verbal weapon..."Dodgson!" It's actually quite unintentionally funny looking back on it.
How about the way they changed Dr. Henry Wu from movie to movie?
 
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I would recommend Jurassic World now that you have lower expectations, but I wouldn't touch the 2nd & 3rd movies in either of those trilogy's unless you're treating it like a history exhibit where you just want to see exactly how badly it went.

Funny just how much those 2 trilogies mirrored each other. They both tried that weird soft reboot in the first movie and then got more and more lost as they went.

I went to Jurassic World back in the day (in Portland, Oregon of all places).

It's not good. But it's not The Force Awakens bad. It has a few ideas.

I liked the first act up to the Indominus escape. The film seemed to have some interesting and self-aware ideas and was setting up the Indominus as a metaphor for what effects-heavy blockbuster filmmaking was doing to the industry. Plus, Bryce Dallas Howard is always easy to look at and Chris Pratt is charming in any film he is in, though the two of them never had much chemistry when they're on the screen together.

But after that it got loud and stupid and bad.

I hate this recent trend of these mega franchises simultaneously satirizing and leaning on their genre tropes. It just doesn't work. Relying on the tropes you're satirizing either makes your satire seem shallow and half-hearted or makes the "bigness" of your story and mythology seem absolutely silly.

Let Star Wars be Star Wars and let Space Balls be Space Balls. A wink and a nod saying "yeah we know but we're going to do it anyways" doesn't somehow patch over such tonal incoherence.

Any Jurassic sequel was kind of screwed from the start, though. The original is just so perfect and leaves very little in terms of loose ends to follow up on in terms of characters or plot points. The best idea I've heard was Spielberg's original one, which would be something of a Predator-style survival horror film on Isla Nublar with a backup team on the hunt for the can of "shaving cream" that Nedry was supposed to deliver.

"They still open the park anyways... even though I'm sure Hammond, Grant, and Malcolm would run their mouths at any microphone they could find about what a terrible notion this is... like nothing happened" really isn't a good pitch for a sequel. It's at best a rehash of what was already a perfect film.
 
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the Indominus escape.
That part pissed me off. We are supposed to believe a dinosaur figured out they were using it's heat signature to monitor it's whereabouts.
Then later on it removed it's tracking chip. How the heck would a dinosaur know it had a tracking chip?
 

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I went to Jurassic World back in the day (in Portland, Oregon of all places).

It's not good. But it's not The Force Awakens bad. It has a few ideas.

I liked the first act up to the Indominus escape. The film seemed to have some interesting and self-aware ideas and was setting up the Indominus as a metaphor for what effects-heavy blockbuster filmmaking was doing to the industry. Plus, Bryce Dallas Howard is always easy to look at and Chris Pratt is charming in any film he is in, though the two of them never had much chemistry when they're on the screen together.

But after that it got loud and stupid and bad.

I hate this recent trend of these mega franchises simultaneously satirizing and leaning on their genre tropes. It just doesn't work. Relying on the tropes you're satirizing either makes your satire seem shallow and half-hearted or makes the "bigness" of your story and mythology seem absolutely silly.

Let Star Wars be Star Wars and let Space Balls be Space Balls. A wink and a nod saying "yeah we know but we're going to do it anyways" doesn't somehow patch over such tonal incoherence.

Any Jurassic sequel was kind of screwed from the start, though. The original is just so perfect and leaves very little in terms of loose ends to follow up on in terms of characters or plot points. The best idea I've heard was Spielberg's original one, which would be something of a Predator-style survival horror film on Isla Nublar with a backup team on the hunt for the can of "shaving cream" that Nedry was supposed to deliver.

"They still open the park anyways... even though I'm sure Hammond, Grant, and Malcolm would run their mouths at any microphone they could find about what a terrible notion this is... like nothing happened" really isn't a good pitch for a sequel. It's at best a rehash of what was already a perfect film.

The original Spielberg idea sounds way more interesting than what came out. I wouldn't say it's a perfect film.

His other stuff that was either built on fantasy and harmless mystery (Close Encounters, maybe E.T.?) or real source of pending doom that you don't even see until the last half of the movie (Jaws) were perfect imo.

OG JP was a kind hashed out mix of both that spends the first half foreshadowing who's going to die and that the animals will figure out how to breed.

I still like it, and it's iconic on many levels, but it just hasn't aged that well for me.
 

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That part pissed me off. We are supposed to believe a dinosaur figured out they were using it's heat signature to monitor it's whereabouts.
Then later on it removed it's tracking chip. How the heck would a dinosaur know it had a tracking chip?

Like I said, it's not a good film. It's a very dumb one.

"We can't find this 8-ton super-predator who is all teeth and claws and has a bad attitude in her compound. Gee maybe we should wander in there and leave the door open behind us for it to get out. There's no way our sensors could just be out of order and the monster is in there waiting for us."

Heck, if you really do think it is out of its pen, THEN WHY WOULD YOU GO OUTSIDE?!?

People who own golden retriever puppies know not to walk into such traps.

The original Spielberg idea sounds way more interesting than what came out. I wouldn't say it's a perfect film.

His other stuff that was either built on fantasy and harmless mystery (Close Encounters, maybe E.T.?) or real source of pending doom that you don't even see until the last half of the movie (Jaws) were perfect imo.

OG JP was a kind hashed out mix of both that spends the first half foreshadowing who's going to die and that the animals will figure out how to breed.

I still like it, and it's iconic on many levels, but it just hasn't aged that well for me.

I would have much rather watched Pete Postlethwaite lead a BioSyn "recovery" team to the lab on Isla Nublar a few months or years after InGen abandoned the park and folded to see what tech they could recover... just enough time for the baby raptors we know are on the island because of the nest that Grant and the kids walked over to be fully grown and, as Muldoon put it, "Lethal, and I do mean lethal."

I don't think it overuses foreshadowing to the point it ruins it. A lot of those visual and otherwise metaphors are only picked up on repeated viewings. There's a few things I'd have marked to change... a few clunky lines here and there, a few shots that are staged in awkward ways, the whole Grant can hold a door shut against oh 500+ pounds of raptor... the thing is the size of a grizzly bear I'm sorry but that door is going to open... and the dumb computer sequence, but these are relative nitpicks on the final product.
 
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That part pissed me off. We are supposed to believe a dinosaur figured out they were using it's heat signature to monitor it's whereabouts.
Then later on it removed it's tracking chip. How the heck would a dinosaur know it had a tracking chip?
I mean we are talking about a movie series where we somehow learned to create dinosaurs from mosquitos found in tree sap... Logic went out the window immediately.
 

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I mean we are talking about a movie series where we somehow learned to create dinosaurs from mosquitos found in tree sap... Logic went out the window immediately.

There's a "conspiracy theory" about the story that the whole amber DNA thing was a cover.

InGen actually made the "dinosaurs" by splicing together modern reptiles and birds and doing some other science tomfoolery to the point something popped out that looked like a "dinosaur."

This is why they look like what they did (e.g., no feathers on the raptors). They were bred to be scarier and to conform to audience expectations rather than to recreate a bygone world.

Bringing Grant to the island wasn't just about reassuring investors and the insurers. It was to see if what they created was good enough it could fool a leading paleontologist about these "dinosaurs."

It doesn't matter but is an interesting subtext.
 
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I have to nominate Errementari: The Blacksmith And The Devil on Netflix. You have to watch it to believe how bad a movie can possibly be.
 

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Like I said, it's not a good film. It's a very dumb one.

"We can't find this 8-ton super-predator who is all teeth and claws and has a bad attitude in her compound. Gee maybe we should wander in there and leave the door open behind us for it to get out. There's no way our sensors could just be out of order and the monster is in there waiting for us."

Heck, if you really do think it is out of its pen, THEN WHY WOULD YOU GO OUTSIDE?!?

People who own golden retriever puppies know not to walk into such traps.



I would have much rather watched Pete Postlethwaite lead a BioSyn "recovery" team to the lab on Isla Nublar a few months or years after InGen abandoned the park and folded to see what tech they could recover... just enough time for the baby raptors we know are on the island because of the nest that Grant and the kids walked over to be fully grown and, as Muldoon put it, "Lethal, and I do mean lethal."

I don't think it overuses foreshadowing to the point it ruins it. A lot of those visual and otherwise metaphors are only picked up on repeated viewings. There's a few things I'd have marked to change... a few clunky lines here and there, a few shots that are staged in awkward ways, the whole Grant can hold a door shut against oh 500+ pounds of raptor... the thing is the size of a grizzly bear I'm sorry but that door is going to open... and the dumb computer sequence, but these are relative nitpicks on the final product.
The first, original Jurassic Park remains one of my favorite movies of all time, and my favorite Spielberg film, even 30 years later.

If we’re going to nitpick, Velociraptors were actually the size of turkeys in real life.
 

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The first, original Jurassic Park remains one of my favorite movies of all time, and my favorite Spielberg film, even 30 years later.

If we’re going to nitpick, Velociraptors were actually the size of turkeys in real life.

I interpret the actual genus of the raptors in JP as something more like deinonychus, achillobator, or utahraptor. “Velociraptor” just sounds cooler.
 
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I just watched it a couple days ago to see what the fuss was about, and yeah, that is odd.
From what I understand it has nothing to do with the actual movie but the politics surrounding it. If someone said The Black Phone( a movie about a pedophile serial killer) was the worst movie ever it would be OK to ask why someone thought that way. Its not OK to ask why this movie is the worst ever. I really didn't understand why asking the question pissed people off.
 

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I am gonna throw this one out there.... I don't even know if it is bad but I fell asleep the 3 times attempting to watch it.
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