Why does this moron still have a job

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But just think, this stallion graduated from Simpson in 2012 with a plan to break into coaching. Did his early gigs, and this gofer spot was the one intended to lead into D1 college coaching. He blew 6 years of work, at least for now, to fight with a high school kid over Twitter.

Adam was a student assistant at Simpson when I was getting recruited. Always has been great in my interactions with him. I was shocked to see this today.
 
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Terrible things?
We also now live in a society that sensationalizes far too often.

BFD

It's not the words, it's the whole package.

A. A college coach should never be tweeting at a random HS kid. Shows bad judgement.
B. Player development coached help players grow on and off the court. Does this action support that person teaching other how to make good choices.
C. The image of one projects the image of all. If my sole job is to teach good behavior and I go do something stupid why do I gain that trust back?
 

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It's not the words, it's the whole package.

A. A college coach should never be tweeting at a random HS kid. Shows bad judgement.
B. Player development coached help players grow on and off the court. Does this action support that person teaching other how to make good choices.
C. The image of one projects the image of all. If my sole job is to teach good behavior and I go do something stupid why do I gain that trust back?


I would adjust A to say negative tweeting. If one sees something come across and gives a simple Congrats, good job or something to that extent. I wouldn't see an issue. (Pending it doesn't break contact rules).
 
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After I saw the screen shots shared on social media I decided to do something that I've never done before. I wrote an email to Pollard Thursday night, politely laying out the reasons why this guy needs to be let go. In short, this is not how a representative of ISU should conduct themselves. I received a reply from the AD on Friday -

"...Although the posts are clearly inappropriate, immature and not the type of behavior we expect out of our employees, we also do not feel that behavior, in and of itself, warrants terminating one’s employment. Please rest assured we have dealt with the situation and the embarrassment that Adam’s actions have brought on to himself and to our program are not being taken lightly."

While I was disappointed in the AD's reply, it didn't really matter because news had broke that Urness resigned.

Will he and his family (I've seen posts from the player's mother saying Urness' wife went to the school, managed to pull the message recipient out of class and continue to berate) learn from this? I can only hope so, but I think I'll rein in my hopefulness.
 

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In Iowa you don't need a "reason" to fire someone corrrct?

U R right on ...In Iowa any Employee at Will can be FIRED at anytime for any reason.....thats why they are called at will...ie. the employee works at the will of the employer.......
 

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Will he and his family (I've seen posts from the player's mother saying Urness' wife went to the school, managed to pull the message recipient out of class and continue to berate) learn from this? I can only hope so, but I think I'll rein in my hopefulness.

JFC, are they all insane? :eek: What in the hell is wrong with this family?
 

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JFC, are they all insane? :eek: What in the hell is wrong with this family?

Not surprised, have you ever lived in small town Iowa? Locals can get very nasty when they feel they have been wronged or someone does something they don't like/agree with. I have seen this type of BS and that is why I enjoy living in a large city.
 

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Not surprised, have you ever lived in small town Iowa? Locals can get very nasty when they feel they have been wronged or someone does something they don't like/agree with. I have seen this type of BS and that is why I enjoy living in a large city.
I grew up in small town Iowa, though I don't live there any more. Although everyone in a small town might be more aware of nasty feuding behaviors, you are stereotyping hard to suggest that type of **** doesn't occur in urban areas. It most certainly does. I have observed it in both settings. The best I think can be said is that a smaller percentage of the urbanites of any particular area are aware of all such situations going down in the city where they live.
 

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Can you write our congressional delegation regarding a certain other Twitterer?


After I saw the screen shots shared on social media I decided to do something that I've never done before. I wrote an email to Pollard Thursday night, politely laying out the reasons why this guy needs to be let go. In short, this is not how a representative of ISU should conduct themselves. I received a reply from the AD on Friday -

"...Although the posts are clearly inappropriate, immature and not the type of behavior we expect out of our employees, we also do not feel that behavior, in and of itself, warrants terminating one’s employment. Please rest assured we have dealt with the situation and the embarrassment that Adam’s actions have brought on to himself and to our program are not being taken lightly."

While I was disappointed in the AD's reply, it didn't really matter because news had broke that Urness resigned.

Will he and his family (I've seen posts from the player's mother saying Urness' wife went to the school, managed to pull the message recipient out of class and continue to berate) learn from this? I can only hope so, but I think I'll rein in my hopefulness.
 

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I grew up in small town Iowa, though I don't live there any more. Although everyone in a small town might be more aware of nasty feuding behaviors, you are stereotyping hard to suggest that type of **** doesn't occur in urban areas. It most certainly does. I have observed it in both settings. The best I think can be said is that a smaller percentage of the urbanites of any particular area are aware of all such situations going down in the city where they live.

Did I say it never happens in urban areas? I grew up in 5 small Iowa towns and two larger cities. One thing that was different is social media. When I was growing up it was gossip between a few people. Today with all the social media platforms it is much worse. I think Keith Murphy last night on sound off when talking about this made a great point, Think about what you just typed before you hit send. What Adam did was wrong and stupid and hopefully he has learned a lesson.
 

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On the official issue, there are a lot of really bad fans and parents at athletic events. But let's not totally give all officials a free pass either. I have been at my share of events where adult officials were really bad including one where one kicked a coach out because he simply quietly asked what the call was, started calling phantom penalty shots - God knows why - and then came over to the sidelines in the middle of the game and taunted the fans offering them his whistle if they thought they could do better when a few fans grumbled about what was going on. Unfortunately he got what he wanted then because one of the parents went off on him when he did that and he kicked her out. He then proceeded to kick other parents out when they asked him to please just start the game. He also continued to make very inappropriate comments to kicked out parents as they left the game area. Some may say that he was just having a bad day, but this behavior went way, way, way beyond any semblance of what is appropriate. Some people shouldn't be officials.
And guys like that make even the good ones look bad.
 
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But just think, this stallion graduated from Simpson in 2012 with a plan to break into coaching. Did his early gigs, and this gofer spot was the one intended to lead into D1 college coaching. He blew 6 years of work, at least for now, to fight with a high school kid over Twitter.

My thoughts exactly. I don't know the guy so I can't say whether he's an a-hole or just had a bad night but this is a cautionary tale of how one bad decision can ruin a lot of hard work.
 

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My thoughts exactly. I don't know the guy so I can't say whether he's an a-hole or just had a bad night but this is a cautionary tale of how one bad decision can ruin a lot of hard work.
Knowing that he has been out of HS for about 10 years and not a new grad from HS or college, it's even sadder yet. Imagine how crazy he will be if he feels his kid is being slighted.

Social media is basically the wrong choice for nearly 90% of things. 100% of disagreements. Dude needs to realize your glory days in front of you and not behind you.
 
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Knowing that he has been out of HS for about 10 years and not a new grad from HS or college, it's even sadder yet. Imagine how crazy he will be if he feels his kid is being slighted.

Social media is basically the wrong choice for nearly 90% of things. 100% of disagreements. Dude needs to realize your glory days in front of you and not behind you.

You sure on that?

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And guys like that make even the good ones look bad.
Bingo.

I never made a scene at sporting events but I did make some comments to officials I probably shouldn't have as an athlete. Once I started officiating I shut up quick because it's a damn tough gig...especially when a lot of parents think their kid is the next Steph Curry in AAU ball or Aaron Rodgers in youth football.
 

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Bingo.

I never made a scene at sporting events but I did make some comments to officials I probably shouldn't have as an athlete. Once I started officiating I shut up quick because it's a damn tough gig...especially when a lot of parents think their kid is the next Steph Curry in AAU ball or Aaron Rodgers in youth football.
I have spent the last 5-6 years training and mentoring new officials. Most of them are former athletes. A few are empty nesters, who are looking to get involved after their kids are no longer playing. Some have the attitude that they've been watching officials screw up for many years and they're going to step in on day one and do better. Then they realize how difficult it really is and that they didn't know as much as they thought they did. I take no joy from their struggles. I love the game and love helping people learn. I wish more people would try it, though, and get a different perspective.
 

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After I saw the screen shots shared on social media I decided to do something that I've never done before. I wrote an email to Pollard Thursday night, politely laying out the reasons why this guy needs to be let go. In short, this is not how a representative of ISU should conduct themselves. I received a reply from the AD on Friday -

"...Although the posts are clearly inappropriate, immature and not the type of behavior we expect out of our employees, we also do not feel that behavior, in and of itself, warrants terminating one’s employment. Please rest assured we have dealt with the situation and the embarrassment that Adam’s actions have brought on to himself and to our program are not being taken lightly."

While I was disappointed in the AD's reply, it didn't really matter because news had broke that Urness resigned.

Will he and his family (I've seen posts from the player's mother saying Urness' wife went to the school, managed to pull the message recipient out of class and continue to berate) learn from this? I can only hope so, but I think I'll rein in my hopefulness.

I think Pollard's response was spot on. Bad, but as an isolated incident, not enough to terminate someone. I view it the same as that principle that posted the doctored clips from the Iowa basketball game. He should have dropped things apologized and moved on.
 

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I think Pollard's response was spot on. Bad, but as an isolated incident, not enough to terminate someone. I view it the same as that principle that posted the doctored clips from the Iowa basketball game. He should have dropped things apologized and moved on.


That superintendent didn't just drop and move on, he doubled down by doctoring the video of the "elbow" that hit Pemsl in a different game. Dude must have a massive crush on Pemsl for what he does for him.
 

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