I actually thought Mahoney had a lot better year until I went and looked at the numbers after the game Sat. I think he is towards, or at, the bottom of the Big 12.
He just didnt have a very good year. I like the kid though, if that means anything.
Why are people down on Mahoney?
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I actually thought Mahoney had a lot better year until I went and looked at the numbers after the game Sat. I think he is towards, or at, the bottom of the Big 12.
He just didnt have a very good year. I like the kid though, if that means anything.
Seriously you brought up Yelk. Dude the kicker who we refer to other kickers by. As in Mahoney Yelked 2 kicks against Missouri.
I agree.. since when did it become expected to make 45+ yard field goals. Maybe the offense could get closer for more makable kicks? Kicking is a lot about confidence and when you miss it brings you down even when you miss kicks that are 50+ which Mahoney is tied for most attempted in the nation.
Beginning of the season they were more makable distances and then later in the year they were not. Besides the mizzou game which was obviously a bad game for him.
Yet he was good from 57 in that game. Make either one of the other kicks and the Cyclones beat Nebraska and are going bowling.
In no way, though, am I putting the Nebraska loss solely on Mahoney. The same thing could be said about Arnaud. If he doesn't throw that pick 6, the Cyclones beat Nebraska and are going bowling.
I'm not ragging on the kid what so ever, but he was disappointing down the stretch this year. Mahoney is better than what he showed us in the 2nd half this season, he has proven that he can makes those kicks somewhat consistently.
You can delete the rest of the posts and just leave this one. Then close the thread.
If you're referring to my post, I didn't say Yelk was accurate. I said Benike was accurate inside 45 yards, as he wouldn't even attempt long field goals, Yelk would come in for those.
Ha. Even my non-ISU friends say that everytime a kicker misses. Pro or college, "looks like he Yelked that one"
Benike was a solid kicker but he made nothing but short kicks. When he had to kick over 40 yards he went 3 for 6 and attempted zero 50 yard kicks.
To me, that is just a Division I kicker doing his job, but nothing special to write home about.
CPR is putting him out there to kick 45+ yard field goals, right? That must mean he expects Mahoney to make them...
Good kickers are 80% or better from within 40 yards. Great kickers are 80% or better from all distances or 90% or better from within 40 yards. Mahoney is 4 of 6 from inside 40 yards this year. 4 of 11 from beyond 40. No matter how you break it down, his numbers are not all that great. I am trying to remember if any of them were game winning high pressure type kicks and I don't think any were.
With that said....
- The long snapping this year was not great and had to mess with his head
- I don't like the offense and the staff putting him in the position to kick long fields as much as they did. It messes with his confidence and 55% of the time it gave the opposing team a short field.
Why are people down?
(a) Make only 1 of your last 9. Yes, some were long, but some of those were also with the wind.
(b) Miss two makeable kicks that would have impacted a critical game. A 3-0 lead would have been important. A 7-6 ballgame down the stretch might have made a huge difference.
(c) Miss makeable kicks at home, against MU, in last game of season. Been there, done that. Too many painful memories to see it happen again.
(a) Make only 1 of your last 9. Yes, some were long, but some of those were also with the wind.
(b) Miss two makeable kicks that would have impacted a critical game. A 3-0 lead would have been important. A 7-6 ballgame down the stretch might have made a huge difference.
(c) Miss makeable kicks at home, against MU, in last game of season. Been there, done that. Too many painful memories to see it happen again.
No there aren't. Go look up the stats if you want. Not a lot of college kickers make 45+ yard kicks on a consistent basis. Only 33% of kickers in college football made a kick of 50 yards or further this year.
So what you are saying is that besides the Missouri game, Grant Mahoney is a GOOD kicker. I agree.
Oh, so the Mizzouri game doesn't count? I didn't realize that
FWIW- I don't think too many people were questioning his ability before the Mizzou game. It wasn't until he missed two under 40 that people began questioning his ability. Keep in mind his season stats this year are the worst of his career. Prior to this year, he was 80% within 40 yards. This year 66% and he attempted far fewer FGs this year than the last two.
As an addendum to this: People are also down on Mahoney because on-line fan bases are irrecoverably short-sighted and irrational. That's just the way it is.
