Right? Of all of these actually successful coaches, one retired, two went to coach in the NBA and one got fired for a drinking problem. It's not like we have a bunch of coaches leaving for better NCAA teams.
Which do you think will happen first?
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Right? Of all of these actually successful coaches, one retired, two went to coach in the NBA and one got fired for a drinking problem. It's not like we have a bunch of coaches leaving for better NCAA teams.
If he's successful enough for a "better" job to want him, then there won't be many if any better jobs available. Plus he'd have to restart building his team, and he would have less job stability with tougher AD's and donors to please. It's not like the poor Iowa State of old. We can afford to pay a good coach now.
Why be so negative about it? Maybe he will stay maybe he wont. Maybe this is his dream job. Maybe he falls in love with Ames and ISU. If he wins this could be one of the top jobs in the country.
Valid points here, but regarding Gable, saying he wouldn't coach here.... is that only after he was intrenched at Iowa?
Don't get me wrong...I want CSP to be successful, lead the program to the Sweet 16 and beyond this coming year. Most can understand a step back after this coming year due to the transition and losing all-time great ISU players. Most can even a handle 2 or even 3 year step back after CFH's players leave. I hope he builds the program in his vision and becomes competitive with his own players and stays a long time. But history has given us an idea how things will work out. It is just not likely to happen in the fairy tale book ways we want.
Floyd was successful with Orr's leftovers (yes, CFH was an Orr leftover) and made a run with his first set of JUCO recruits, but then rumors began and he could not get recruits to Ames, and his wife made him leave Ames.
LE was successful with Floyd's recruits, and LE could not recruit at all and never was successful after Tinsley's run.
Mc-Doormat could get recruits to Ames, but he could not coach out of a 3 wall room and we all know the back stories here.
CFH comes in revives the program brings it to the heights never been reached before, and leaves to coach in the NBA.
So this is the 5th time happening in the past 21 years, that averages about once every 4 years. We will see what happens, but history gives us a glimpse into what lies ahead.
The score: 2-2.....2 coaches have been so successful at ISU they leave for the NBA (same team which is even more astounding)
2 coaches failing at being able to sustain success after things were set up for them......
The result for CSP will be the tie breaker....Which way will his legacy fall?
Floyd was successful with Orr's leftovers (yes, CFH was an Orr leftover) and made a run with his first set of JUCO recruits, but then rumors began and he could not get recruits to Ames, and his wife made him leave Ames.
LE was successful with Floyd's recruits, and LE could not recruit at all and never was successful after Tinsley's run.
Mc-Doormat could get recruits to Ames, but he could not coach out of a 3 wall room and we all know the back stories here.
CFH comes in revives the program brings it to the heights never been reached before, and leaves to coach in the NBA.
So this is the 5th time happening in the past 21 years, that averages about once every 4 years. We will see what happens, but history gives us a glimpse into what lies ahead.
The score: 2-2.....2 coaches have been so successful at ISU they leave for the NBA (same team which is even more astounding)
2 coaches failing at being able to sustain success after things were set up for them......
The result for CSP will be the tie breaker....Which way will his legacy fall?
Just more proof that not everyone should get a public forum to voice their opinion...you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
How could Eustachy be successful with Floyd's recruits if Floyd couldn't get players to Ames afters rumors began to swirl?
You realize Fizer, Nurse, Rancik, and Hinrich (who was committed to the Clones) were after Floyd's first set of juco's, right?
Also, Rancik and Shirley were the only Floyd recruits on Eustachy's second Big 12 title team. Tinsley, Horton, Sullivan, Power, and Pearson were all Larry's guys. He also landed Haluska, Vroman, and Homan after that. Stinson and Blalock were set to play for Larry too before he got fired.
Sure Clone_12...Call me whatever you want...Bottom line...Floyd did not have any long term success....LE did not have any long term success....and McDoormat was clueless....This is what happens to programs that cannot hold on coaches long term...you get flashes in the pans every now and then, and you will get duds.
Will CSP be a flash in the pan, or will he be a dud? Who knows...
Will CSP be a flash in the pan, or will he be a dud? Who knows...
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Or will he be a long tenured successful coach?
You are so ******* sure he won't be good for the program no matter what. Anyone that wants to look at your history of posts and can read all of them without vomiting in their mouth will see you are just a bitter, sour 'fan'. We could have hired Coach K and you would have skewered that choice because he only has 5-10 years left of coaching.
Might CSP not work out exactly as we want? Probably. That is the world at the top of college athletics. It is also what makes it so sweet when it does work (see the last 5 years).
Man, I'm a pessimist. But there are some people on this board who should be on suicide watch...
I think you did not list the most likely scenario. The failures will start this year. We might break 500 in conference play.
You are wrong and the thrashings will begin immediately
Suggest you back off your post/month rate to 1/month or less.
CycloneErik
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I thought the definition of public was everyone being able to voice an opinion. Maybe I need a new dictionary.
