What is the status of Osunniyi?

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If watching the World Cup last month taught me anything, it's that you can ABSOLUTELY suffer excruciatingly painful knee injuries from even the slightest human contact nowhere near your knee.

In fact, apparently it can even happen if someone comes close enough that it might look like someone could have possibly touched you but actually didn't touch you at all. Then BOOM! Your knee literally explodes internally into dust, temporarily, and you writhe around on the ground and cry out to your dead relatives that you are coming to see them soon.

So yeah, I can see the ankle to knee thing.
Haha. Spoken like a true Iowan! Are you from Iowa (to prove my point)?

Iowans are sarcastic by nature. So it's not just me. LOL
 

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I agree with you that people go nuts for Bob but I think that's because he has boughten into the roll of full on utility player hook line and sinker. He also looks a bit odd when doing some things on the court but you know what, it works! Sure he has bad moments but what player doesn't? He's a fantastic backup big man and to counter your point about him being a bad rebounder, he's actually averaging more rebounds than Shoon is..

When Bob allows the flow of the game to come to him, he's actually pretty solid on both ends of the court. The past two games Bob has been very good. Now, I'll agree that Shoon is definitely better than him in almost all areas of the game, especially FT shooting. Bob is very very bad from the line.
Not too long ago, someone mentioned Bob is worse at the line than Shaq was. Percentage-wise that may be true, if he is only hitting 39% or so. BUT Shaq's form was awful and you just knew he was likely to miss. Bob's shot actually doesn't look horrible.

Wish he could zero it in a little better.
 

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Come on. Jones makes a couple of baskets in a game and people go delirious.

Shun has more offensive potential, is a better defender (better in trans, better helpside, and doesn't fall asleep on cutters as much as Jones), and is infinitely better in transition. He's also a much better rebounder, something Jones is very poor at, even moreso when considering his size.

Where Jones really has value is his post up game, which is more polished than Osun's. When he is decisive and makes quick moves he can be very effective. He also has a tendency to plod and when he does that it often ends in an easy trap or TO.

We are a different team when Osun is on the floor and not in foul trouble. He can ALTER a game. With Jones you just hope he gives you occasional buckets, doesn't turn it over, and doesn't lose awareness on the defensive end of the floor.

His FT shooting also makes him a liability at the end of a close game. I mean, if Osun isn"t in foul trouble you can't really justify putting Jones on the floor.
Very harsh on Rob.

Per 40 Osun gets 8.3 R, Rob 7.8 R. That's not a "much better rebounder"
Per 40 Osun gets 2.0 B, Rob 0.9 B.
Per 40 Osun gets 1.0 S, Rob 2.0.
Per 40 Osun 3.3 TO, Rob 3.0.

I'll agree that Rob is a terrible FT shooter. I hope that Osun can keep up his .800 rate this year. He was a .644 career FT shooter at St. Bonnie.

Clearly Osun deserves to start, but Rob isn't the terrible player you make him out to be. He is much improved over last year.

Osun is more polished offensively but, as demonstrated in the start of the Tech game, Osun needs to work on taking it strong to the basket. He got destroyed at the rim twice in the first few minutes. He shouldn't be trying to lay those in but instead dunking them with authority.
 
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Not too long ago, someone mentioned Bob is worse at the line than Shaq was. Percentage-wise that may be true, if he is only hitting 39% or so. BUT Shaq's form was awful and you just knew he was likely to miss. Bob's shot actually doesn't look horrible.

Wish he could zero it in a little better.
Rob is a career .425 FT shooter but only .344 this year and a riduculous .319 overall at ISU.

:eek:

Tim Floyd would be sending in some walk-on to foul him as soon as his team had 6 fouls in the half.
 
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Not too long ago, someone mentioned Bob is worse at the line than Shaq was. Percentage-wise that may be true, if he is only hitting 39% or so. BUT Shaq's form was awful and you just knew he was likely to miss. Bob's shot actually doesn't look horrible.

Wish he could zero it in a little better.
He needs to try banking it. He’s like 70% when hitting backboard first on his free throws
 
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Rob is a career .425 FT shooter but only .344 this year and a riduculous .319 overall at ISU.

:eek:

Tim Floyd would be sending in some walk-on to foul him as soon as his team had 6 fouls in the half.
Haha. Ouch. So true about Floyd (or any coach w/ a pulse).
 
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He needs to try banking it. He’s like 70% when hitting backboard first on his free throws
You'd think. But he might not have been aiming for the backboard (at just the right point).

So when he aims for that backboard 'sweet-spot' for the bank, he might swish it.

Worth a try. :confused:
 

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Not too long ago, someone mentioned Bob is worse at the line than Shaq was. Percentage-wise that may be true, if he is only hitting 39% or so. BUT Shaq's form was awful and you just knew he was likely to miss. Bob's shot actually doesn't look horrible.

Wish he could zero it in a little better.
What is with his wrist motion / twist at the top of his release? That motion causes inconsistency and does look horrible though the end result is often close.
He also straddles the midline instead of lining up his right foot. That prevents him from going toe to knee to elbow to wrist to bucket in a straight line. He is often missing right or left but rarely long or short.
 
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Not too long ago, someone mentioned Bob is worse at the line than Shaq was. Percentage-wise that may be true, if he is only hitting 39% or so. BUT Shaq's form was awful and you just knew he was likely to miss. Bob's shot actually doesn't look horrible.

Wish he could zero it in a little better.
Ah, the playoff committee approach. Shaq was actually better, but Bob passes the "eye test".
 
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What is with his wrist motion / twist at the top of his release? That motion causes inconsistency and does look horrible though the end result is often close.
He also straddles the midline instead of lining up his right foot. That prevents him from going toe to knee to elbow to wrist to bucket in a straight line. He is often missing right or left but rarely long or short.
No argument. I'll look a little closer next time.

Seems to me you should jog past Sukup now and then. Perhaps you will run into big Rob and you two could do some coaching.
 
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I don’t get the Rob obsession. Either love him or hate him.

Rob is who he is. Recruited by low-end mid-majors out of high school. TJ was trying to rebuild a completely gutted program and only had Conditt as a true big after Foster got dismissed. Took a chance on a guy that is clearly a high effort, high character guy that fits the culture held trying to build.

Gave us solid effort last year despite not being the most talented guy. Obviously worked his a$$ off over the summer - both in his game and his body. Now a contributor for a top 15 team.
If we’re ever going to be a true national title contender we need to upgrade at this position. But he’s doing what he needs to do right now. To point above, teams need guys like this. But you can’t build a team around them.

Again, he is who he is. Not going to be all conference and not going to get drafted, but he’s clearly contributing and the staff, team, and fans love him.
 

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Rob has been great this year, considering what he was and where he played before coming here. We need him. Obviously I’d love to see Shun really break out and do more, but he can’t play the entire game… especially when he picks up quick fouls.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Ward comes out of nowhere and has a big game eventually. He’s shown flashes but he’s behind everyone else in team chemistry because he got here so late with his visa issues.
 
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Hoping Osun is good enough to at least be out there tomorrow. If he’s even 70% as impactful as normal I’ll be ok w that.

KU doesn’t have any daunting big men but Osun being out there is important just to have an extra body to contest shots and pick up some fouls down low when needed. Especially in AFH. With Jaz already being out, would be a tough situation to be down another starting big man.

The line being at -8 (thought it’d be closer to -6) concerns me but I guess we will see. KU has one of the best pure PGs in the nation and their wings can get buckets. Looking forward to a battle.
 
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Sounds like Osun might be Gumby.

Hope so. Hope he's OK to play and can have an impactful game.

TJ is rubbing off on me.