Way too many JUCO transfers for McDermott

[CyDude16]

Well I guess people that are complaining about JUCO's filling holes, would still ***** and moan if GMAC just sat there on his hands and didn't recruit anyone for missing pieces, or would stll ***** and moan if we recruited unrecruited high schoolers that were equivalent to the likes of Mann, Eikmeier, etc. Some of you must not believe GMAC can do anything right. He's trying to do the best in the **** situation we have...

 

[CyDude16]

I'm getting sick of us recruiting JUCO thugs and criminals. At Iowa State we want to do things the right way. Academics first, and athletics second. We want to bring in young kids and make men out of them. We don't want to to be paying JuCo coaches to provide us with players. We don't want to turn into Memphis or Kentucky or one of those dirty schools.

Oh wait, Wayne Morgan already left? Never mind. We must be doings with integrity now. We must not be using the lazy, band-aid juco route. And we must be winning.

Please inform us which juco's as of late have been thugs and criminals? Peterson?
The only one you'd have an argument for is Taylor, and he has changed his life around. What a stupid post.

 

[cyclonenum1]

Cato and Willoughby were not JUCO transfers.

I don't care who we get as long as they can play.

Ditto that!

 

[cyclonenum1]

We will be fine going with JUCOs for our two remaining schollies.

Remember, we have 2 freshmen coming in Railey and Ejim. Wilkins will basically be a sophomore. Colvin will be a sophomore too. And GMac will have 4 open scholarships to hand out next year to HS kids.

We just CANNOT afford to lose Colvin. If Colvin goes, then GMac has to go the very next day IMO. He is the person we are going to have to build this team around right now. He is the future at this point in time. Losing Dendy would obviously hurt a lot, but he's a senior. We cannot afford to lose our sophomore stud point guard of the future. That is irreplaceable at this point.

No one is irreplaceable.

 

[cyclonenum1]

Spring recruiting period + holes to fill = JC players.

GM has got to do whatever he can to win as soon as possible.

The unfortunate thing is that this should have been the mindset of both the coaching staff and the fans immediately upon the hiring of GM.

It's called having a "sense of urgency" and all the great coaches have it whether they just got their first head coaching gig or they just signed a lifetime contract. Our fans are too willing to have patience...four years in the world of CBB is an eternity.

 

[cyclonenum1]

Well I guess people that are complaining about JUCO's filling holes, would still ***** and moan if GMAC just sat there on his hands and didn't recruit anyone for missing pieces, or would stll ***** and moan if we recruited unrecruited high schoolers that were equivalent to the likes of Mann, Eikmeier, etc. Some of you must not believe GMAC can do anything right. He's trying to do the best in the **** situation we have...

You do realize that after four years the "**** situation we have" is entirely of GM's own doing...right?

 

[Stormin]

In year 4 of the Eustachy Era we finished 12-19. In year 5 of the Eustachy Era we barely finished over .500.

Just thought I would point that out.

 

[Tornado man]

It's depressing that Gmac, after year 4, has to camp out at the junior college national tournament last week in Hutchinson, KS to spot JUCO stragglers to fill out a frickin' roster.
And if JUCO players are unsigned in the spring, they're stragglers...

 

[Clonehomer]

So to the OP, you want McDermott to win or he loses his job yet you don't want him to bring in JUCO's that can play right away? If he brought in a bunch of freshmen to fill the holes that we have then our team will look like Iowa did this year. At least with JUCO's you may get a guy that'll help you win this year (see Gilstrap, Dendy). Until we win, we probably aren't going to bring in the freshmen that will improve our program.

 

[Tornado man]

At least with JUCO's you may get a guy that'll help you win this year (see Gilstrap, Dendy).

The JUCO's available this late are the ones that not many schools want, for whatever reason. The best signed last fall.
Gmac is paying a steep price for having players bail on him right and left. This has become JUCO State.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

I really don't care if they are JUCO or high school. Take the best available players.

 

[StLouisClone]

In year 4 of the Eustachy Era we finished 12-19. In year 5 of the Eustachy Era we barely finished over .500.

Just thought I would point that out.

After his first couple years, Eustachy's recruiting classes were about as bad as McDermott's.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

After his first couple years, Eustachy's recruiting classes were about as bad as McDermott's.

And Eustachy's next team had Blalock and Stinson. LE was well on the way to turning things back around. I have no doubt the team that Wayne took to a NIT final 4 would have went to the NCAA tourney with LE coaching them.

 

[bostrem00]

In year 4 of the Eustachy Era we finished 12-19. In year 5 of the Eustachy Era we barely finished over .500.

Just thought I would point that out.

Just thought I would point out that Eustachy's year 4, would run every team that Mac has had to the woodshed,the big 12 was as good if not better than any other conference that season sending half the conference to the ncaa's,and in year 5 of the Eustachy, that team made the postseason....Something that hasn't even been within the realm of possibility...:no:

 

[jsb]

Just thought I would point out that Eustachy's year 4, would run every team that Mac has had to the woodshed,the big 12 was as good if not better than any other conference that season sending half the conference to the ncaa's,and in year 5 of the Eustachy, that team made the postseason....Something that hasn't even been within the realm of possibility...:no:

Seriously.....Larry's year 4 team was terrible. TERRIBLE. In addition, Larry's 5th year team only made the postseason because it was before the NIT changed. In that year, the NIT took teams that would draw a good crowd and thus make money. That team would have never made it it into today's NIT.

 

[MilehighClone]

Given the fact that most of Greg's recruits only stay for a couple years it makes perfectly good sense to go the juco route.....

 

[SpokaneCY]

And Eustachy's next team had Blalock and Stinson. LE was well on the way to turning things back around. I have no doubt the team that Wayne took to a NIT final 4 would have went to the NCAA tourney with LE coaching them.

And we MAY be able to say, GMacs next class has X and Y. Thats the thrill of recruiting - some kids blow you away and some kids don't.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Seriously.....Larry's year 4 team was terrible. TERRIBLE. In addition, Larry's 5th year team only made the postseason because it was before the NIT changed. In that year, the NIT took teams that would draw a good crowd and thus make money. That team would have never made it it into today's NIT.

So many here say success is only measured by tourney success. SO LE really only had 1 good year and 1 year that is still held up as one of the largest collapses in modern basketball history. LE quite simply had a once in a lifetime roster where all the pieces performed. Truly great coaches do that year in and year out while LE has NEVER come close to having half that success. He got lucky - nothing more and nothing less. He had never done it before ISU and hasn't done anything like at after.

 

[Spam]

Greg McDermott doesn't give 2 cents about ISU. He only came here instead of going to KSU or Iowa because Jamie Pollard stunned him by giving him a near infinite period contract.

Ames suddenly became the perfect coaching destination- absolute job security, no punishment for failure, and incentives that are typically provided for winning were being offered regardless of results.

He knew that his cherished job- the University of Iowa would never offer something near so sweet. He knew he had hit the lottery.

He may or may not have the potential to be a good coach. But he certainly doesn't have any incentive to try.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

Greg McDermott doesn't give 2 cents about ISU. He only came here instead of going to KSU or Iowa because Jamie Pollard stunned him by giving him a near infinite period contract.

Ames suddenly became the perfect coaching destination- absolute job security, no punishment for failure, and incentives that are typically provided for winning were being offered regardless of results.

He knew that his cherished job- the University of Iowa would never offer something near so sweet. He knew he had hit the lottery.

He may or may not have the potential to be a good coach. But he certainly doesn't have any incentive to try.

I am not in the Greg camp, but good lord, let's be sensible.