Have not read rest of post, so sorry if already posted, but schollys are only a 1 year commitment...
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Have not read rest of post, so sorry if already posted, but schollys are only a 1 year commitment...
I just posted this in the other thread, but will post it here as well... I've seen at least one sports reporter out of Wisconsin indicate tampering as a potential reason why Iowa State was on this list, along with potential recruitment interests (ie. Matt Thomas). Not saying that Iowa State did tamper, but it's that simple as to how we ended up on the restricted list. They need no proof and unfortunately I nor others can find an example when the NCAA over-ruled a member institution on something like this.
If Wisconsin had information that ISU had in any way tampered with a player on his team, don't you think they would go straight to the NCAA with that information?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would be an NCAA violation. If that were the justification I'm pretty sure we would know by now.
Furthermore, does anyone think it fits with Fred's character to be tampering?
Bo doesn't appear to be mature enough to handle rejection. He is acing in a pety and vindictive fashion because he didn't get what he wanted. This is sad to watch.
There is an easy solution for this type of abuse of power. Give the student athletes that are currently on scholarship the power to decide what schools a coach can consider if he decides to purse a different job. I will guarantee no coach would accept those terms.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that would be an NCAA violation. If that were the justification I'm pretty sure we would know by now.
Furthermore, does anyone think it fits with Fred's character to be tampering?
Bo doesn't appear to be mature enough to handle rejection. He is acing in a pety and vindictive fashion because he didn't get what he wanted. This is sad to watch.
There is an easy solution for this type of abuse of power. Give the student athletes that are currently on scholarship the power to decide what schools a coach can consider if he decides to purse a different job. I will guarantee no coach would accept those terms.
one thing is clear, Bo doesn't like ISU recruiting up in WI. However, his offer to Thomas came after ISUs.
Im venturing to guess its hardly our recruiting of Thomas. Be a pretty thin pool of schools transfers could go to if coaches eliminated states of others schools who are recruiting your kids in the state.
bo ryan is worried about iowa state about as much as roy williams and john calipari are worried about wisconsin.
What is really funny is that he is doing this over a player that wasn't good enough to play his freshman year. I mean it is not like he is losing an Anthony Davis or even a Darius Miller.
Wouldn't it change the game if coaches were required to put together the transfer restriction list during the initial recruiting of the player before s/he commits to a school the first time? You would see a coach like Bo either change his tune or go the way of the do-do.
Most coaches are very, very reluctant to report violations. Coaches who do can be shunned. One of the reasons they're reluctant is that violations are hard to prove and seldom result in any meaningful sanctions.
In contrast, this situation is one where if Bo thinks there was tampering, he can impose his own penalty, in effect, and for all practical purposes doesn't have to answer to anyone for his reasons.
I'm not saying that's why he did what he did, but it would be a mistake to conclude that if tampering had occurred a coach would necessarily elect to report it to the NCAA, and he's even less likely to go public about it even if that were his reason for imposing a transfer restriction on a particular school.
You can't justify Bo's restrictions beyond those of a petty and vindictive coach. Just as an FYI, ISU allowed Adam Haluska to transfer to their in-state rival which they played on an annual basis.
Tampering is a serious issue, and while it might not fit Fred's character, this is College basketball, and it's cutthroat. For me to say "there is no way we tampered" would be me just being a fan. It's possible - by any program. Let's not kid ourselves. Again, I'm not saying we did.
Whatever Bo's reasons, I just keep thinking: there are 300 +/- transfers in CBB this year. How many have more than just in-conference restrictions? Let alone a whole other conference and two other schools. That's what makes this hard to defend Coach Ryan.
Whatever Bo's reasons, I just keep thinking: there are 300 +/- transfers in CBB this year. How many have more than just in-conference restrictions? Let alone a whole other conference and two other schools. That's what makes this hard to defend Coach Ryan.
But to be fair, wasn't there a coaching change at ISU involved in 2003? Aren't schools generally more free and easy with unrestricted transfers during a coaching change?
I think the first tweet that implied Ryan was mad at ISU because we are recruting Matt Thomas, and, per the tweet, the frontrunner, was correct. I think the tweeters realized that sounded bad, so they started throwing out "possible rumors of tampering" to make it sound better for UW.
Honestly I think that was a huge mistake on our part. Massive. He was probably the best player they have had in 10 years.
Don't allow transfers to schools you play on a yearly basis. Conference rules take care of in conference transferring anyway so that isn't really an issue anyway.
That is where it should end.
I think there was some LE undercurrent that made it easier just to let Adam go.
